Here is an even worse idea: display the bank saldo on the dash. When you go over the speed limit the dollars start counting down exponentially.
Controversial California bill would physically stop new cars from speeding
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#42An aside but I’ve always found it fascinating that Google Maps etc have built in alerts when you’re about to pass a speed camera. The only use I can think of for this functionality is to make it easier for you to speed without getting a ticket. I find it interesting that we’re so permissive of something like that when we’re draconian about so much else.
Legally speaking, I feel like it'd be a lot harder to limit information
Also, if they did legislate it out of Google maps, I bet you can recreate it using a background service and an overlay
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think many people will argue that running from the police is something we want to legitimize. It is also is never going to end well. The police have orders of magnitude more resources and will eventually catch you. (And meanwhile, you've probably put hundreds of innocent lives at risk while speeding through traffic.) The correct venue there is to argue your case in court. As for the hospital... that's a nuanc…
If this law/tech had been in place in the 1940s and 50s NASCAR would have never been created. By imposing it, who knows what possibilities of creative expression we're artificially pruning from our cultural trajectory.
Driving vehicles will never be creative expression.
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#44There it is. The line.
Physically forcing anything is a failure of governance. If you have to force it, you had no authority in the first place and you're just covering up that fact.
America is absolutely committed to creating hell on earth.
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#45> The technology would use GPS and a database of roadway speeds to prevent cars from going 10 miles per hour over the speed limit wherever they are. Sometimes my GPS thinks I'm on an adjacent road, especially when I'm on the freeway. Seems like that kind of error would be catastrophic in combination with a system like this. Also, what's the rationale for letting people go 10 over the limit? That's effectively admitti…
Text of the proposed law [1]:
"28171. (a) Commencing with the 2027 model year, every passenger vehicle... be equipped with an intelligent speed limiter system." and (b) "be capable of being temporarily disabled by the driver of the vehicle."
Also: (c) "shall be capable of being fully disabled by the manufacturer or a franchisee, but only as provided in Section 28172." (28172 is about EMS etc.).
I smell loopholes for me (politicians, and likely techies ;-), but not for thee.
Also interesting how GPS jammers haven't entered the chat yet?
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#46Do you think that California could shut the fuck up until the first Wednesday in November? Independents are poised to deliver the election results California wants, however these are the type of stories and issues that are just enough to stick in a voters head during a decision point.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
If this law/tech had been in place in the 1940s and 50s NASCAR would have never been created. By imposing it, who knows what possibilities of creative expression we're artificially pruning from our cultural trajectory.
Driving vehicles will never be creative expression.
I didn't like the Mad Max movie either, but isn't that a bit much?
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
If this law/tech had been in place in the 1940s and 50s NASCAR would have never been created. By imposing it, who knows what possibilities of creative expression we're artificially pruning from our cultural trajectory.
We make tradeoffs like this all the time. Who knows how many amazing adventurous frontier literature we're missing out on, as we've moved on from gun slingers regularly robbing banks and having duels with bounty hunters at high noon. (I'm not arguing for / against the auto-enforced speed limit)
What about all the entertainment we gave up since gladiators fights were outlawed? ;o
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#49> The technology would use GPS and a database of roadway speeds to prevent cars from going 10 miles per hour over the speed limit wherever they are. Sometimes my GPS thinks I'm on an adjacent road, especially when I'm on the freeway. Seems like that kind of error would be catastrophic in combination with a system like this. Also, what's the rationale for letting people go 10 over the limit? That's effectively admitti…
The car speedometer will estimates the vehicle's speed by measuring the number of revolutions per minute of one of the wheel or its transmission.
If the car has different-sized tires than the ones it was originally designed for, there may be some discrepancies between the actual speed vs the speedometer readings, which is why there is some leeway in the speed limit to account for that margin of error.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or, any state with power. Look at Indiana and pregnant preteens.
Except that in case of California they are willing to give up even money from speeding fines for a perceived public safery, might be short sighted a bit too much but at least the heart is in the right place, in the other case is just a way to limit people freedom, destruction of careers and potential appeasement of some imaginary friend in the sky
I referenced Michaal Dukakis elsewhere, but what REALLY ground everyone's geara was that the speed enforcement was to raise fines issued. He was campaigning on the Massachusetts Miracle, with a healthy budget, and shortfalls were appearing that needed to be filled.
The effect that everyone hated was the enforcement. That it was to harvest their money for his ambition definitely increased the hate.