Ninja Tune record label used to have pretty good stuff
Amon Tobin – Foley Room site (2007)
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#32I don't know about you all but I miss the websites of 2007. There was so much variation and unbridled creativity. I remembered stumbling upon this page in 2007 while looking up Amon Tobin's soundtrack to Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. I can't remember the last time I saw a musician launch such a beautiful interactive site for their album release. And here it is in 2024, lovingly preserved and still functional on Intern…
You are the only one with this opinion. Nobody else on HN has ever expressed nostalgia for the old internet before.
I don't think that's right, I've seen a lot of people do that
Re: Amon Tobin – Foley Room site (2007)
#33Ninja Tune record label used to have pretty good stuff
ninja tune, warp records and somafm struggling on dialup, take me back
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#34Amon Tobin on HN? Wow His music is great (Long Stories, Out From Out Where, Supermodified) The website experience is neat. This is the second musician I see making an ambitious computer project. The other being that game Neil Cicierega made. I jokingly pick Slowly by Amon Tobin to be the soundtrack for when they do the lethal injection thing to me.
I was a big fan fifteen years ago. I'd love to hear from other fans of Amon Tobin back in the day, what are you listening to these days? What contemporary music should I check out if I was an amon tobin fan 15 years ago?
Plaid. Every album so far has been on the edge of the music landscape as it released. The last album, among other things, combining real and physical modelled instruments in electronic soundscapes against a AI/generative backdrop, The previous one incorporating gamalan structures and rythems among advances in sound design. Back in the day they where also using generative rytems, virtual voices, all kind of digital sythesis techniques when they just became aviable.
It's one of the few artist in the electronic frontier that imho manages to consistently make musical songs with state of the art tech. In contract to newer stuff from for example Clark or Amon Tobin where it feels the intresting sounds are the song instead of intresting sounds making the song.
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#35Weird, I saw this article about Pitchfork being merged into GQ [0], which points to this stats page on Pitchfork [1] only to see Amon Tobin is one of the select few to receive a perfect 10 for Bricolage in 1997 to then having him reaching the front page of HN. All that in the span of 30 minutes.
[0] https://www.platformer.news/why-pitchfork-died/?ref=platform... [1] https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/25-years-of-...
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#36Old Amon Tobin was just the best. At the end of the day, Slowly, Journeyman...some of the best music I have ever heard. His stuff with the London Symphony Orchestra is bonkers ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggl_pWkbEoc ). All of his recent stuff isn't quite my cup of tea, but that's just the nostalgia factor speaking. I guess anyone who discovers a musician during one of their eras may not necessarily like their o…
Oh man, that's exactly the song I was thinking of (though I had the original, electronically-produced version in mind). The glissando string part, which comes in at 2:28 in your recording, is this cinematic, unapologetic, swaggering thing, like a sweeping helicopter shot of an Aston Martin zooming across Tunisia.
I do prefer the original, electronically-produced version, because I think Amon Tobin is more talented as a producer than as a composer per-se, and I think a lot of the non-"classical" sounds in At the End of the Day are really well selected, like the electric guitar. It adds to the "James Bond"-ness of it all. This is the original, AIUI:
Re: Amon Tobin – Foley Room site (2007)
#37I don't know about you all but I miss the websites of 2007. There was so much variation and unbridled creativity. I remembered stumbling upon this page in 2007 while looking up Amon Tobin's soundtrack to Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. I can't remember the last time I saw a musician launch such a beautiful interactive site for their album release. And here it is in 2024, lovingly preserved and still functional on Intern…
It's sad, but unfortunately it's kind of like the whole "vulkan" issue: allow a great tool to degenerate that people can actually easily use (Flash) and then replace it by much more difficult to use and/or less well supported technologies (HTML5)
The issue is, the training and support for similar projects in JS and CSS took such a long time (and honestly is still nowhere near the ease of use of Flash) that by just a few years later interactive websites became a throwback anyway. Now, if anyone were to do that, it would carry a dreadful air of nostalgia.
That said, perhaps they would have carried on if not for Adobe basically refusing to fix Flash, but I think by the time Steve Jobs' note was published it was already out of vogue. The end of skeuomorphism and the era of "flat design everything" was concurrent, and these were easily accommodated by contemporary web technologies without Flash. I think that's also an important point, there was an era where such websites as Amon Tobin's were considered basically old-fashioned and lethargic, and everyone was genuinely very excited about turning everything into flat design.
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#38Should there be any music? I only can hear a starting sound. It's hard to get anything of it?
You have to navigate around to find different critters that play music clips. The minimap in the top left tell you where they are in your vicinity.
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#39Ninja Tune record label used to have pretty good stuff
Still does. Kamasi washington, thundercat, louis cole, kadhja bonet, laurel, haitus kaiyote are all at the top of their game and signed to ninja tune.
It's a really different sound from "back in the day" and likely to be rejected by a lot of the people who grew up on like, bonobo and dj vadim. But the label plays the same role, favoring experimental & alternative groove-based musicians.
The "original" ninja tune artists were so influential that key elements of their sound just became part of the main stream of pop and hip hop today. The current crew is similarly disproportionately influential on other musicians, and I'm nearly certain it will play out the same way.
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#40OOO we are doing Tobin on HN: https://youtu.be/XqyEZ0GwS3E?feature=shared&t=2491
Beautiful projection map! I wonder if they're using TouchDesigner for this.