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Why do some people feel tired all the time?

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For me it was sleep apnea. It was undiagnosed and I have lived most of my life basically exhausted. Once I was diagnosed, thanks to a CPAP recall/shortage during the pandemic I couldn’t get a CPAP machine so used a custom fit oral appliance which took a few days to get used to, but once I did I woke up one day, having done nothing very different from any other day, feeling fresher than I can ever remember feeling. It…

Can we buy this custom appliance over the counter without a prescription to try it out?

This probably does something similar. https://www.sleepon.us/mrd-m2/

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What led to you making so many changes to your normal routine all at once?

Not the parent, but in my case it was the attempt to optimize the process of falling asleep, in any way possible, after years of sleeping problems. There are a lot of articles, books or YT videos compiling tips and tricks. 4-7-8 breathing is another common advice. After I had been diagnosed with sleep apnea, I received a prescription for an APAP machine (auto-adjusting pressure, in contrast to constant-pressure CPAP)…

I’m sure it has occurred to you to try CPAP; was it ruled out by your pulmonologist? If the pressure is incorrect enough to wake you up gasping, “it ain’t workin’”. As a CPAP user, being able to access the hidden control menu for my device was key: it allowed me to change the pressure, the ramp, and other runtime configuration that really improved my experience - which improved my compliance and thus my energy level (and that small thing of not being at risk of sleep-death!). You have to press a certain combo of buttons to access, maybe your APAP has something similar?

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For me it was sleep apnea. It was undiagnosed and I have lived most of my life basically exhausted. Once I was diagnosed, thanks to a CPAP recall/shortage during the pandemic I couldn’t get a CPAP machine so used a custom fit oral appliance which took a few days to get used to, but once I did I woke up one day, having done nothing very different from any other day, feeling fresher than I can ever remember feeling. It…

It can be incredibly hard to get a diagnosis. Even when you are shown to have it, you can find out that insurance uses an entirely different metric and, therefore, will refuse to pay. I don't get any sleep as a result and there's not a thing I can do from what it seems.

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For me it was diet, after I gave up gluten, dairy, sugar, and virtually all carbs, and just stick to 80% meat, 20% vegetables, water and tea, I am full of energy, pain free, and hunger is very different, I only eat 1 meal a day and I’m not hungry (although it is a big meal usually - ~1500 calories)

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For me it was sleep apnea. It was undiagnosed and I have lived most of my life basically exhausted. Once I was diagnosed, thanks to a CPAP recall/shortage during the pandemic I couldn’t get a CPAP machine so used a custom fit oral appliance which took a few days to get used to, but once I did I woke up one day, having done nothing very different from any other day, feeling fresher than I can ever remember feeling. It…

Thanks for the info. I suffer from it as well. Can you please write in more about the "custom fit oral appliance" ? I'm interested in trying it myself.

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For me it was sleep apnea. It was undiagnosed and I have lived most of my life basically exhausted. Once I was diagnosed, thanks to a CPAP recall/shortage during the pandemic I couldn’t get a CPAP machine so used a custom fit oral appliance which took a few days to get used to, but once I did I woke up one day, having done nothing very different from any other day, feeling fresher than I can ever remember feeling. It…

Did you have any issues with the device when you first got it? I've been using a cpap machine for a while, but it took me literally years before I could sleep through an entire night with it on. I've been thinking of either having surgery or going the oral appliance route this year.

For me the trick was a full face mask (Dreamwear, where the hose comes out the top of your head) and a heated hose.

I was initially resistant to the full mask, thinking it would feel more restrictive than the nose-only, but distributing the pressure over a wider area ended up feeling a lot more comfortable.

Similarly with the heated hose, my initial thought was that it would feel like breathing hot air all night. The the actual effect is that it keeps the added humidity from condensing out out of the air and gurgling in the tube.

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For me it was sleep apnea. It was undiagnosed and I have lived most of my life basically exhausted. Once I was diagnosed, thanks to a CPAP recall/shortage during the pandemic I couldn’t get a CPAP machine so used a custom fit oral appliance which took a few days to get used to, but once I did I woke up one day, having done nothing very different from any other day, feeling fresher than I can ever remember feeling. It…

It can be incredibly hard to get a diagnosis. Even when you are shown to have it, you can find out that insurance uses an entirely different metric and, therefore, will refuse to pay. I don't get any sleep as a result and there's not a thing I can do from what it seems.

If it's sleep apnea, go to eBay and buy a CPAP for $100. It'll be the best $100 you spent.

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I am feeling tired all the time. My hand / legs go numb when I am in same position for more than 10 mins or so. I feel lot of weird stuff when I am asleep. Thyroid, Vitamin D, b12, diabetes, iron levels, brain MRI all came up normal. So my neuro suggested seeing a psychiatrist (I was depressed during Covid) which also didn't show any improvement. I have GERD though. Anyone in the similar boat? I feel like I might a p…

I'm around the same age and I've been struggling with constant fatigue for years. It's very hard to be taken seriously. I am absolutely not an expert, but perhaps you have some kind of circulation issue? I hope you can find answers.

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For me it was sleep apnea. It was undiagnosed and I have lived most of my life basically exhausted. Once I was diagnosed, thanks to a CPAP recall/shortage during the pandemic I couldn’t get a CPAP machine so used a custom fit oral appliance which took a few days to get used to, but once I did I woke up one day, having done nothing very different from any other day, feeling fresher than I can ever remember feeling. It…

Did you have any issues with the device when you first got it? I've been using a cpap machine for a while, but it took me literally years before I could sleep through an entire night with it on. I've been thinking of either having surgery or going the oral appliance route this year.

Not OP, but it took me a year of actively reading my machine data and changing settings to figure it out. Have you tried OSCAR?

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I am feeling tired all the time. My hand / legs go numb when I am in same position for more than 10 mins or so. I feel lot of weird stuff when I am asleep. Thyroid, Vitamin D, b12, diabetes, iron levels, brain MRI all came up normal. So my neuro suggested seeing a psychiatrist (I was depressed during Covid) which also didn't show any improvement. I have GERD though. Anyone in the similar boat? I feel like I might a p…

Same boat, I'm a 32 software developer and gamer, always spent most of the day on a computer, but since last year I'm very tired every day, I'm a father and doctors dismissed me as having some sort of midlife crisis or changes in my life even though from my perspective, I've never been happier, the only thing bringing me down is being tired. I sometimes feel dizzy when standing up, way more often and stronger than the natural dizzy you sometimes get when staying sitting too long.

The list of possible reasons is long and not all can be tested: long Covid, ME/CFS, diabetes, sleep apnea, depression, vitamin deficiencies.

I've tried to practice more sports, stopped all coffee and alcohol for a month, slept for longer, nothing changed, but I should continue some of this anyway.

There's also this documentary on long covid or me/cfs where some people have it so much worse, can't get out of bed like the Youtuber PhysicsGirl... Devastating.

Early studies seem to indicate permanent brain damage because of viruses like Covid, so there might be no chance of recovery, just learning to live with it.

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