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Controversial California bill would physically stop new cars from speeding

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Re: Controversial California bill would physically stop new cars from speeding

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

quantified wrote: post #9
syndicatedjelly wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Individual circumstances are never considered in a socialist state

Or, any state with power. Look at Indiana and pregnant preteens.

Except that in case of California they are willing to give up even money from speeding fines for a perceived public safery, might be short sighted a bit too much but at least the heart is in the right place, in the other case is just a way to limit people freedom, destruction of careers and potential appeasement of some imaginary friend in the sky

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Post by rascul »

tjohns wrote: post #15
gnicholas wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand why cops would have give leeway, but here the measurement tool would be your speedometer. Although I’ve heard some manufacturers make theirs a little on the slow side, I’d think they’d be pretty accurate in general.

Changes in tire size will impair speedometer accuracy.

And your tire gets smaller over time with wear.

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Post by gnicholas »

tjohns wrote: post #17
kirubakaran wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what's the rationale for letting people go 10 over the limit One reason among many: for passing, especially semis, without spending forever in their blind-spot

Also, safety. Being able to floor it during an emergency can sometimes get you out of an impending crash - if the situation is right, and your reaction time is quick enough.

Oh for sure, but that could require going more than 10 over the limit. I can't imagine needing to go 25 over the limit under pretty much any (non-apocalyptic) circumstance, but 10 doesn't seem like sufficient for this type of situation.

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Post by kelseyfrog »

tjohns wrote: post #18
lnxg33k1 wrote: post #4

What if someone has to go to hospital or run from the police?

I don't think many people will argue that running from the police is something we want to legitimize. It is also is never going to end well. The police have orders of magnitude more resources and will eventually catch you. (And meanwhile, you've probably put hundreds of innocent lives at risk while speeding through traffic.) The correct venue there is to argue your case in court. As for the hospital... that's a nuanc…

If this law/tech had been in place in the 1940s and 50s NASCAR would have never been created. By imposing it, who knows what possibilities of creative expression we're artificially pruning from our cultural trajectory.

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Post by gnicholas »

tjohns wrote: post #18
lnxg33k1 wrote: post #4

What if someone has to go to hospital or run from the police?

I don't think many people will argue that running from the police is something we want to legitimize. It is also is never going to end well. The police have orders of magnitude more resources and will eventually catch you. (And meanwhile, you've probably put hundreds of innocent lives at risk while speeding through traffic.) The correct venue there is to argue your case in court. As for the hospital... that's a nuanc…

> I don't think many people will argue that running from the police is something we want to legitimize. It is also is never going to end well.

In some jurisdictions, the official policy is to not chase fleeing offenders, which both validates your point that this is dangerous, and also makes it somewhat more likely that it could actually end well for a fleeing criminal.

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Post by jfisher4024 »

This is like how CI forces developers to write better code by nudging us towards good behaviors. Is it annoying sometimes to write well-formatted code with high test coverage? Sure. Is it annoying to drive at the speed limit? Sure. Ultimately, it leads to a better outcome.

If this gets adopted, within 10 years people won’t be able to imagine how we lived without it

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Post by afavour »

An aside but I’ve always found it fascinating that Google Maps etc have built in alerts when you’re about to pass a speed camera. The only use I can think of for this functionality is to make it easier for you to speed without getting a ticket. I find it interesting that we’re so permissive of something like that when we’re draconian about so much else.
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