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Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#191

Why is their logo the letter g instead of k? Have they considered the risk of a trademark violation lawsuit from their competitor, Google? As one of the 20K paying members, I feel embarrassed that I hadn't noticed this until now. Because this article presented the idea of wearing a Kagi T-Shirt, I suddenly started to care about what the logo looked like. Also, yes, I am excited to rep Kagi search.

I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t think it’s possible to trademark a letter.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#192

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Suggestion for Kagi: If you haven't made the t-shirts yet, offer users to request/reserve one first. That way you won't ship to those who don't want it (though you won't ship to some who do, so maybe save some t-shirts on the side for those willing to contact you to ask if there's any left after the deadline)

Reading the blog post it sounds like users will get a credit toward a free shirt/stickers. They will still need to pay shipping, which should be enough to keep people from getting it just for the hell of it. After a period of time, if there are unclaimed shirts they will open them up to those users beyond the first 20k. While it sounds like they will print 20k no matter what, it doesn’t seem like they will randomly s…

If they will print 20k no matter what, I'm curious how they'll determine what sizes to print.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#193

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Reading the blog post it sounds like users will get a credit toward a free shirt/stickers. They will still need to pay shipping, which should be enough to keep people from getting it just for the hell of it. After a period of time, if there are unclaimed shirts they will open them up to those users beyond the first 20k. While it sounds like they will print 20k no matter what, it doesn’t seem like they will randomly s…

If they will print 20k no matter what, I'm curious how they'll determine what sizes to print.

"Sizes are first come first serve" so I suppose they estimate how many of each size they need and then let people get a shirt as long as their size is available.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#195
Trying out ChatGPT Plus for the last couple of months has done a lot to warm me up to the idea of paying for Kagi - I've been using it to cover a lot of queries I'd struggle with for longer in a search engine previously - so I'm glad to see they're considering ways of integrating LLMs, I don't think I want to add two $20-25pcm subscriptions for it, though I'll likely continue one. (I use, and have used for at least 11 years, DDG for the rest.)

I suspect the 'problem' (for someone in my position trying to choose) will always be that a ChatGPT sub is ahead in breadth of what it offers - for example DALLE image generation at the moment would probably stop me from swapping.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#196
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I don't fucking care about politics and I am tired of it being brought up when I am explicitly talking about the quality of search. So please stop injecting your "Just take the L because of my political agenda attitude" and talk about the product. The whole discussion got so political on their discord and forum that you can't even talk about the degraded quality before some left or right wing nut comes around going "…

I started subscribing in like October and haven't been searching much since the new year cause I've been really busy. I think I have also noticed this quality degradation, and also the results taking much longer. I'm not gonna say it's useless but I understand. So I can dislike it for that reason with you. As far as politics... for a lot of people not relying on a single particular global megacorp (who tend to extend…

Agreed, the quality has slipped somewhat but I do believe the choice was in part due to the way cheaper offering by Brave, as after the change (or with it), they brought back $10/mo unlimited. Looking at brave's pricing, they do it based on reqs/sec + limit/month and it's way cheaper ($5/mo sub = 20mil searches, $0.00000025 a search if maxing it out) - This is based on the data for AI plan which is $5/mo rather than $3/mo as Kagi does run some AI stuff atop the results [1].

I feel I've seen more AI Spam recently although when I do I've just ended up downvoting the site immediately, and that has generally fixed the issues as there seems to be a few repeat offenders. That could totally be up to the Kagi postprocessing being tweaked though.

[1] https://brave.com/search/api/

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#197

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There's a Firefox addon that does that too [0]... and another one made specifically for old.reddit [1] 0. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/ 1. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re...

Add-ons are terrible because they fingerprint you.Javascript allows for sharing of addons names. Having this niche add-on coupled with your device and browser type, IP, timezone this gives unique fingerprint. This comes from someone who used to have 50+ Firefox add-ons.

Can you elaborate more on how Javascript allows for sharing of addon names? I didn't know this and wasn't able to find any references on it.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#198
post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

> I wouldn't call myself a power user of Kagi, but even then I'm getting far better results than other search engines, definitely worth the price per month. This only works as long as Kagi is a niche. The moment any search engine becomes commonplace I think they will inevitably succumb to SEO. Otherwise, they would have to change their methodologies every once in a while to completely flip the ecosystem.

A paying search engine will always be a niche

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#199

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I've been curious for a while too and I've been trying to de-google myself a tiny bit each year (more or less dropped Chrome in 2023). Once I actually grab a full time job again I wouldn't mind grabbing my own subscription here to try it out. I'm curious if 300 searches/month is truly enough for me, though. And what would happen if I go over that rate. Am I simply unable to search more for that month?

Fwiw, I initially burned through the free searches in a few days, so definitely not enough IMO. Add the fact that free searches never got refreshed for my account, and I was pretty much unable to properly test the service for months. But bangs still work after the limit, thus I kept it as default given that I heavily use bangs to search other services. Still I ended up subscribing, and after properly testing, I can r…

The free searches aren't supposed to "refresh". They are once per account.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#200
post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

I've been curious for a while too and I've been trying to de-google myself a tiny bit each year (more or less dropped Chrome in 2023). Once I actually grab a full time job again I wouldn't mind grabbing my own subscription here to try it out. I'm curious if 300 searches/month is truly enough for me, though. And what would happen if I go over that rate. Am I simply unable to search more for that month?

Personally I'm fine with the 300 searches/month, however that means I don't use Kagi for searches that are extremely simple.
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