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Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#181
post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

I've been curious for a while too and I've been trying to de-google myself a tiny bit each year (more or less dropped Chrome in 2023). Once I actually grab a full time job again I wouldn't mind grabbing my own subscription here to try it out. I'm curious if 300 searches/month is truly enough for me, though. And what would happen if I go over that rate. Am I simply unable to search more for that month?

Fwiw, I initially burned through the free searches in a few days, so definitely not enough IMO. Add the fact that free searches never got refreshed for my account, and I was pretty much unable to properly test the service for months. But bangs still work after the limit, thus I kept it as default given that I heavily use bangs to search other services.

Still I ended up subscribing, and after properly testing, I can recommend. The service is good, the blacklist feature is essential to me now; is just that the free tier is shit.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#183
post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

> I wouldn't call myself a power user of Kagi, but even then I'm getting far better results than other search engines, definitely worth the price per month. This only works as long as Kagi is a niche. The moment any search engine becomes commonplace I think they will inevitably succumb to SEO. Otherwise, they would have to change their methodologies every once in a while to completely flip the ecosystem.

> The moment any search engine becomes commonplace I think they will inevitably succumb to SEO

Thankfully when I come across a irrelevant domain in Kagi I can just remove it from any future search results completely. If enough people do that, it may show up on the "most commonly removed" list inviting others to also ax it.

I rarely ever have an issue with spam on Kagi just by largely using the standard filters, and I'm confident this will remain the case.

And unrelated but I really like that I can redirect all reddit urls in search results to old.reddit.com, twitter to nitter etc. very helpful in searching on mobile.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#184

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There's a Firefox addon that does that too [0]... and another one made specifically for old.reddit [1] 0. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/ 1. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re...

Add-ons are terrible because they fingerprint you.Javascript allows for sharing of addons names. Having this niche add-on coupled with your device and browser type, IP, timezone this gives unique fingerprint. This comes from someone who used to have 50+ Firefox add-ons.

you could also use user scrits and save on addons?

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#185

Doesn't this sound like a substantial distraction? The process from here involves setting up a business entity in Germany, so we can import the t-shirts, store them in a warehouse, connect inventory logistics and ship them all over the world. This includes building a website and connecting it to a back-end database. So, we basically ended up owning a merch production operation end-to-end, just so that we could ensure…

The software is eating the world, one "end-to-end merch production operation" at a time!

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#186
post #18

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Would be about one month of their revenue at current if you want to believe my quick estimate.

My understanding is that the vast majority of their revenue is used to pay Google and Microsoft for access to their indexes though.

Oooh. And here I was wondering how the heck such a small team could build their own indexes.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#187

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And they would be losing money with every user then. It costs them way more than that just to pay Google and Microsoft their fees.

How does that work? They have a contractual obligation to report to Microsoft and Google how many individual IPs have accessed Kagi domains and pay accordingly?

No, they pay per search query. 200k users make statistically 10 times as many queries as 20k users.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#188
post #4

As a Kagi customer, I hope their choice to allocate nearly a third of their investor-raised funds to produce and freely distribute 20,000 t-shirts doesn’t lead to their demise.

They might think it's free advertising, but I only wear t-shirts to bed or on the weekends and vacations. Most of the time I wear button-ups or polos. Them sending me a free t-shirt isn't going to get them as much advertising as they hoped for.

It depends on the t-shirt though, how it looks, the quality.

I've got to say those t-shirts look great.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#190
extremly happy customer, i just really hope they live up to their goals, but i have faith.

the only thing i personally struggle with is deleting "google" as a substitute for "search for it on the internet" from my vocabulary. haven't used google search since then, feels weird… maybe it's because in german "kacki" is a childish saying for "shit". so "lass mich das kagin" ("let me kagi that") feels weird too :D but hey, wix (="wank" on german) made the best out of it :D

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