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Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by thegeekpirate »

anon-3988 wrote: post #133
viraptor wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily. You'll still be able to nuke the whole domain from your results, permanently. That means you'll see the spam once, and getting a new domain promoted to the top takes time and effectively money. I also hope that domains which get blocked by lots of people will get reviewed for global downranking, but I don't think that's happening yet?

That is true, I really wish I can tell Google to simply filter out learncpp.com and some other websites.

You can with browser extensions, fwiw.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by hyperpl »

anon-3988 wrote: post #133
viraptor wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily. You'll still be able to nuke the whole domain from your results, permanently. That means you'll see the spam once, and getting a new domain promoted to the top takes time and effectively money. I also hope that domains which get blocked by lots of people will get reviewed for global downranking, but I don't think that's happening yet?

That is true, I really wish I can tell Google to simply filter out learncpp.com and some other websites.

I managed to filter that, geeksforgeeks.org and towardsdatascience.com out with Kagi. It's quite helpful being able to slightly reduce prioritization on a per site basis so that instead of showing up as top result it'll be buried a bit but still accessible.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by viraptor »

nine_k wrote: post #101
cwsx wrote: post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

Google Search is a victim of its own success. They are the biggest search engine; every SEO trick, every spam attack is spearheaded against them. But also being the biggest and the inevitable, they can afford to blunt their search tool somehow in order to show more lucrative sort-of-hits and sell more ads. A moral hazard to do such a thing is always present fr any market-dominating player. Kagi, in comparison, is tin…

> every SEO trick, every spam attack is spearheaded against them.

Sure, but also they're ignoring extremely basic issues. "every SEO trick" is one thing, "just copy the SO content and still get ranked on the first page" is them not caring. We can worry about them dealing with the complex issues after they address the low hanging fruit.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by ipaddr »

resolutebat wrote: post #29

Happy paying Kagi member. Took a look at the stats page, and I'm shocked by just how small they still are: only 430 thousand queries per day ! https://kagi.com/stats I still think the 20k shirts is a terrible waste of mine, and I'm unlikely to even claim mine because the designs/colors don't appeal (there's a reason why very few clothes are bright yellow) and I'd still have to pay for shipping.

That works out to 21 or so queries a day per user

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by Exoristos »

mminer237 wrote: post #142
Exoristos wrote: post #75

And if they had set the subscription cost to, say, $2 a month, they might have had 200,000 "members" by now.

And they would be losing money with every user then. It costs them way more than that just to pay Google and Microsoft their fees.

How does that work? They have a contractual obligation to report to Microsoft and Google how many individual IPs have accessed Kagi domains and pay accordingly?

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by johnnyanmac »

cwsx wrote: post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

I've been curious for a while too and I've been trying to de-google myself a tiny bit each year (more or less dropped Chrome in 2023).

Once I actually grab a full time job again I wouldn't mind grabbing my own subscription here to try it out. I'm curious if 300 searches/month is truly enough for me, though. And what would happen if I go over that rate. Am I simply unable to search more for that month?

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by viraptor »

Kerrick wrote: post #4

As a Kagi customer, I hope their choice to allocate nearly a third of their investor-raised funds to produce and freely distribute 20,000 t-shirts doesn’t lead to their demise.

I feel like many people here missed:

> When the merch store goes live in about 8 weeks

It may be a part of a bigger commitment / batch. They'll sell more in the future with some extra income, so that should even out anyway.

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