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Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#111
post #4

As a Kagi customer, I hope their choice to allocate nearly a third of their investor-raised funds to produce and freely distribute 20,000 t-shirts doesn’t lead to their demise.

It feels more to me like they're giving a month (and a bit?) free service in the form of a T-shirt. At this point, their 2023 raise was "only" about three months of gross revenue. Shipped, the tshirts are probably, eh, $13 USD?

I don't really have an opinion about whether this is an effective advertising spend or not. I hope they follow up. I don't need another free T-shirt but I'll probably wear it, I like the doggo.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#112
post #45
post #12

So they raised $670K ( https://blog.kagi.com/safe-round ) and spent almost $223K of that on printing dog t-shirts to give away?

"'You miss 100 percent of the chances you don't take. – Wayne Gretzky'" – Michael Scott

"You save 100% of the money you don't waste" - me

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#113

I am a happy customer, and recently discovered their URL rewrite rules: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html . This lets me automatically rewrite urls so reddit automatically opens in "old" reddit and boost docs open with the latest version of boost. Really feels like this search engine was built for people like me.

Wow, thanks for sharing the tip!

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#114
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I'm way more likely to wear a t-shirt that doesn't have the word "Kagi" on it.

To what end?

It's just a matter of each person's taste. I also prefer it without the name (or any text really).

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#115
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at the kagi logo, the g is much more attention-getting and memorable than the k.

I don't even see a K!

Took me a while too, I think GP and the text about the designer considering where the 'logo' is anchored in designing the, err, 'logo' are talking about the full name as shown at https://kagi.com/assets at the top. I don't know where else that's used though.

It's definitely confusing to call it a logo in talking about designing the logo (let's say icon) though.

Mind you before seeing that about the 'g' I thought the dog was their 'logo'. I'm surprised the designer didn't insist on some simplification, a stronger, single identity; not that I know anything about design or marketing.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#116
post #85

>We would not be here without our early adopters (you!) and we deemed it important to pause, reflect and show gratitude. Why would any customer care about a T-Shirt though? Probably best to put that money into the product, which the early adopters would appreciate more than some generic, likely ill-fitting T-Shirt.

> Probably best to put that money into the product

Just want to chime in say that is not lacking. Check Kagi's release notes [1] and compare speed of development with any search engine (or internet product for that matter) in the world.

Most users do not use 50% of Kagi's capabilities and new ones are being added each week.

[1] https://kagi.com/changelog

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#117
post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

> I wouldn't call myself a power user of Kagi, but even then I'm getting far better results than other search engines, definitely worth the price per month. This only works as long as Kagi is a niche. The moment any search engine becomes commonplace I think they will inevitably succumb to SEO. Otherwise, they would have to change their methodologies every once in a while to completely flip the ecosystem.

Two-sided/platform market dynamics are really interesting to this economist.

I wonder if kagi's going to have to charge for listings some day, instead of users paying in, if they intend to grow substantially.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#118
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's your choice, but not all of us want to wear our politics on our search engine. I don't support what the Brave founder did, but there are probably 100+ people there that don't think that way and are just working and living their lives, and since Brave doesn't have any stance one way or another, it's just another company with a service to me. So is Kagi

I don't fucking care about politics and I am tired of it being brought up when I am explicitly talking about the quality of search. So please stop injecting your "Just take the L because of my political agenda attitude" and talk about the product. The whole discussion got so political on their discord and forum that you can't even talk about the degraded quality before some left or right wing nut comes around going "…

I started subscribing in like October and haven't been searching much since the new year cause I've been really busy. I think I have also noticed this quality degradation, and also the results taking much longer. I'm not gonna say it's useless but I understand. So I can dislike it for that reason with you.

As far as politics... for a lot of people not relying on a single particular global megacorp (who tend to extend the soft-power of a given state or economic bloc) for access to information is a semi-political choice. There is very much an inescapable concern of "who chooses what I get to see and what are their incentives" that can't really be reduced to "I don't care about politics". It cannot be separated from politics, which is why people have such strong feelings about it. I'm not sure that's what people really mean though, I think they talk past each other a lot on this topic. No disrespect meant to you and I appreciate your comments.

I really like the idea that they'd hedge and not give any single index overwhelming leverage over what Kagi users are fed, and conveniently for me (who does care a bit about the who of the thing) if they stick to that approach it should provide more diversity of contemporaneous political messaging... so it can also please the (I think somewhat tedious) "no politics" crowd at the same time. So that seems good?

Tradeoffs maybe, and give them some more time to figure it out, incorporate more indices?

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#119
post #9

My results got so much worse since they started using the brave API for search results I had to cancel. Was a great product but I am back on self hosted search.

That's your choice, but not all of us want to wear our politics on our search engine. I don't support what the Brave founder did, but there are probably 100+ people there that don't think that way and are just working and living their lives, and since Brave doesn't have any stance one way or another, it's just another company with a service to me. So is Kagi

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Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

#120

I am a happy customer, and recently discovered their URL rewrite rules: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html . This lets me automatically rewrite urls so reddit automatically opens in "old" reddit and boost docs open with the latest version of boost. Really feels like this search engine was built for people like me.

There's a Firefox addon that does that too [0]... and another one made specifically for old.reddit [1]

0. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/

1. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re...

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