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Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by Zetobal »

EasyMark wrote: post #58
Zetobal wrote: post #9

My results got so much worse since they started using the brave API for search results I had to cancel. Was a great product but I am back on self hosted search.

That's your choice, but not all of us want to wear our politics on our search engine. I don't support what the Brave founder did, but there are probably 100+ people there that don't think that way and are just working and living their lives, and since Brave doesn't have any stance one way or another, it's just another company with a service to me. So is Kagi

I don't fucking care about politics and I am tired of it being brought up when I am explicitly talking about the quality of search. So please stop injecting your "Just take the L because of my political agenda attitude" and talk about the product. The whole discussion got so political on their discord and forum that you can't even talk about the degraded quality before some left or right wing nut comes around going "AKSCHUALLY".

I do care about the search results and they got worse and are not deterministic anymore since they started using brave. Maybe it's omething else they changed in the code but I expect to at least see the first results of a previous search on the page when I search for it again a few days later. Especially when it was a helpful result. It's useless for me now.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by dharmab »

throwaway0665 wrote: post #42
Kerrick wrote: post #4

As a Kagi customer, I hope their choice to allocate nearly a third of their investor-raised funds to produce and freely distribute 20,000 t-shirts doesn’t lead to their demise.

I didn't realize they'd even raised any money. I thought they were immune from all the VC enshittification.

They raised from small investors and interested users, not VC

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by ethbr1 »

yabatopia wrote: post #59
evanjrowley wrote: post #15

Why is their logo the letter g instead of k? Have they considered the risk of a trademark violation lawsuit from their competitor, Google? As one of the 20K paying members, I feel embarrassed that I hadn't noticed this until now. Because this article presented the idea of wearing a Kagi T-Shirt, I suddenly started to care about what the logo looked like. Also, yes, I am excited to rep Kagi search.

It’s a g? To me, the logo looks like a depressed, lonely circle sitting on a bench. But that’s probably just me.

> a depressed, lonely circle sitting on a bench

Wouldn't that be a k?

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by diggan »

thfuran wrote: post #47
outlore wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having received many t shirts from companies and conferences, I mostly don't wear them if the branding is really over the top. As described, a Kagi shirt would be something I'd actually wear

But would that make it effective advertising?

But isn't the goal of the t-shirt a gift for the first 20k paying users? The goal for them doesn't seem to be about what they get back from giving away the t-shirt.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by nomilk »

I've long been suspicious that google doesn't want you to get an answer too quickly, or you'll go off google and back to whatever you were previously doing, thus they furnish you fewer ads and make less ad revenue.

Curious to know if kagi or any of its users have tried to quantify how much more quickly they get answers to search queries.

Even if it only saves 10 minutes a month, it could be worth switching.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by lucasban »

solarkraft wrote: post #57
cwsx wrote: post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

Does it have an option to exclude commercial websites? That'd be quite useful to me. Pretty much every time I try to find information about a product, all I find are sites trying to sell it to me (but I already have it and want to find information about it, damn it!).

There is a lens available in settings that seems like a good fit, though I haven’t tried it myself yet.

Small Web: results that favor noncommercial domains and topics.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by ketzo »

cdata wrote: post #23

I'm a happy paying customer. Kagi is the first non-Google search engine I've used where I don't feel the need to constantly cross-check the results with Google. For all the people gawking at the expense of the free t-shirts: AFAICT those of us who are receiving them are paying customers; it's not like the money is coming right off of the top of their venture funds.

Honestly I think the whole "we are a startup search engine company who decided to spend the time to set up a production chain for t-shirts" is a worse use of resources than the actual money spent.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by outlore »

thfuran wrote: post #47
outlore wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having received many t shirts from companies and conferences, I mostly don't wear them if the branding is really over the top. As described, a Kagi shirt would be something I'd actually wear

But would that make it effective advertising?

I suppose it wouldn't! Perhaps it might develop brand awareness. (I am thinking about Nike's swoosh or Vercel's triangle)

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by unshavedyak »

solarkraft wrote: post #57
cwsx wrote: post #21

I switched to them a few months ago, I was previously using duckduckgo (and Google before that). As most of you have probably noticed Google search results have seriously dropped in quality the last few years, but especially in 2023. I'm no longer able to get meaningful results for almost any topic, especially if it's technical, the only results are AI generated (?) / obvious SEO spam websites. It takes me multiple d…

Does it have an option to exclude commercial websites? That'd be quite useful to me. Pretty much every time I try to find information about a product, all I find are sites trying to sell it to me (but I already have it and want to find information about it, damn it!).

Iirc there is an exclude (or at the very least, weights), though you'd have to do it by hand. Though i do think there is a social feature to install other peoples weights.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by fullshark »

BadHumans wrote: post #30
evanjrowley wrote: post #15

Why is their logo the letter g instead of k? Have they considered the risk of a trademark violation lawsuit from their competitor, Google? As one of the 20K paying members, I feel embarrassed that I hadn't noticed this until now. Because this article presented the idea of wearing a Kagi T-Shirt, I suddenly started to care about what the logo looked like. Also, yes, I am excited to rep Kagi search.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/logo.html

> Our designer insisted the Kagi logo is "anchored" in the letter "g," and we had to agree.

Huh what am I missing? I have no idea what this link is trying to say.

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