It's important to note the cost savings of declassification. Overclassification is incredibly expensive and burdensome (though it also covers the asses of a lot of incompetent bureaucrats). I used to work in the naval nuclear community. There are honestly only a handful of numbers related to the nuclear power plant on each class of ship that actually need to be classified, but every single scrap of paper associated w…
> The student was ordered in writing to not read about nuclear engineering outside of the school building, regardless of the source. Even though it's all publicly available information that is taught in any undergrad engineering program. that in particular seems extreme, but I know someone who worked on nuclear reactors for the DOD and they were told to not comment on/confirm anything related to nuclear as a CYA, eve…
Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
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Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
How cool. I wonder if we still do awesome things like this.
Clinton tried to give fake nuclear weapons designs to Iran. Unfortunately, the nuclear scientist patsy they used, who was supposed to just deliver the designs, noticed some flaws. So he corrected them. So they now have the real designs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Merlin
Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#63Idle comment, among the many forces at work, one is the pressure resulting from the recent intense push for UAP disclosure. Among the specific actionable allegations that have brought by whistleblowers (notably David Grusch) is that there is an exceptional and unwarranted amount of money finding its way to defense and aerospace companies for secret programs which are not subject to congressional oversight; and that o…
Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#64It's important to note the cost savings of declassification. Overclassification is incredibly expensive and burdensome (though it also covers the asses of a lot of incompetent bureaucrats). I used to work in the naval nuclear community. There are honestly only a handful of numbers related to the nuclear power plant on each class of ship that actually need to be classified, but every single scrap of paper associated w…
Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#65It's important to note the cost savings of declassification. Overclassification is incredibly expensive and burdensome (though it also covers the asses of a lot of incompetent bureaucrats). I used to work in the naval nuclear community. There are honestly only a handful of numbers related to the nuclear power plant on each class of ship that actually need to be classified, but every single scrap of paper associated w…
> ..only a handful of numbers related to the nuclear power plant on each class of ship that actually need to be classified.. What do you actually mean by numbers in this context?
Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#66It's important to note the cost savings of declassification. Overclassification is incredibly expensive and burdensome (though it also covers the asses of a lot of incompetent bureaucrats). I used to work in the naval nuclear community. There are honestly only a handful of numbers related to the nuclear power plant on each class of ship that actually need to be classified, but every single scrap of paper associated w…
> ..only a handful of numbers related to the nuclear power plant on each class of ship that actually need to be classified.. What do you actually mean by numbers in this context?
Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#67But are they declassifying the actual documents this time? > The CIA started feeding flawed shuttle designs — NASA rejects — to the Soviet spies, which they passed off as new “improvements.” It worked. Included in the phonies were outdated heat shield designs that could have risked the spacecraft burning up on reentry. https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/real-life-rogu...
> The CIA started feeding flawed shuttle designs — NASA rejects — to the Soviet spies, which they passed off as new “improvements.” It worked. Included in the phonies were outdated heat shield designs that could have risked the spacecraft burning up on reentry. They could have just given them the updated designs. Those risked burning up on reentry too (and of course did in the case of Columbia).
Somewhere I read about an early space capsule that had ablative shielding made of hardwood, oak or something several inches thick. "Carbon fiber composite", right? The way I remember it, it was said to work well because the wood was dense and didn't just burn up; instead it slowly carbonized. If you've ever made a fire with a large log, it makes sense. It has to get really hot to catch, and then it lasts a long time.
But I remember it as being attributed to the USSR, and when I search the internet now, I get hits saying it was a story about the Chinese space program that might be apocryphal.
Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#68But are they declassifying the actual documents this time? > The CIA started feeding flawed shuttle designs — NASA rejects — to the Soviet spies, which they passed off as new “improvements.” It worked. Included in the phonies were outdated heat shield designs that could have risked the spacecraft burning up on reentry. https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/real-life-rogu...
Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#69Idle comment, among the many forces at work, one is the pressure resulting from the recent intense push for UAP disclosure. Among the specific actionable allegations that have brought by whistleblowers (notably David Grusch) is that there is an exceptional and unwarranted amount of money finding its way to defense and aerospace companies for secret programs which are not subject to congressional oversight; and that o…
The Gang of Eight has the keys to the kingdom. 4 Democrats, 4 Republicans. The Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority and Minority Leaders, and the Chair and Ranking Members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees have full access to every classified program in the government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight_(intelligence)
Re: Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
The DoD (or at least the US Air Force) has been very aware Boeing can't deliver for a long time, between the KC-46 tanker and its inability to refuel, the F-15EX Eagle II and its failing to deliver on marketing promises, the V-22 Osprey and its many crashes including the most recent in November that led to a grounding across the services, and more. If this is a move to give Boeing's competitors (eg: Lockheed Martin,…
> KC-46 tanker and its inability to refuel Where do you get this? KC46 problem is not because it can’t refuel. > F-15EX Eagle II and its failing to deliver on marketing promises Which promises? It’s supposed to be a missile truck, working in conjunction with F35, and it works well in that role. > V-22 Osprey and its many crashes including the most recent in November that led to a grounding across the services It’s ca…
It has had constant problems with its digital camera system for the refueling boom, which effectively means the tanker can't refuel.
>Which promises? It’s supposed to be a missile truck,
The F-15EX was touted to carry 22 (or was it 21?) missiles. However, nearly half of that is dependent on pylons located on the conformal fuel tanks. Guess what happened? Boeing can't figure out how to install the conformal fuel tanks. Fuel tanks that the F-15E has been using for literally decades.
>It’s called Bell Boeing V22 for a reason.
So? It's Boeing. It crashes. It's grounded. Entire flight crews have died, emphasis on plural.