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Majority of America's underground water stores are drying up, study finds

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Re: Majority of America's underground water stores are drying up, study finds

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_nuclear_accident We can have safe nuclear power, right after we invent safe people. Till you solve the human problem nukes are bad mmmkay.

We can have safe nuclear, full stop. Your FUD notwithstanding.

we can barely get a mentally fit president.

good luck with that.

Re: Majority of America's underground water stores are drying up, study finds

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They could have drank it for free or for minimal tax investment but now they have to give money to Nestle to do so while also polluting the planet with plastic bottles

> now they have to give money to Nestle to do so while also polluting the planet with plastic bottles Very few people have to drink Nestle’s products.

They do if they want to drink their water, which was taken.

Re: Majority of America's underground water stores are drying up, study finds

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With solar energy prices plummeting, it may make sense during peak production hours to use it to do desalination and/or extract water from the air, depending on where you are.

> solar energy prices plummeting Shopping for solar in California, prices aren't plummeting. With high interest rates, solar no longer makes economic sense. Its more expensive than ever. Many solar installers are facing bankruptcy because the market has collapsed.

People are downvoting this, but from Tesla earnings today

"Solar deployments declined on a sequential and YoY basis to 41 MW. Downward pressure on solar demand continued into Q4 as interest rates have remained high."

This isn't an opinion, this is a fact. You could also compare the cost of capital between 3% and 10% and derive a cost per kwh.

Re: Majority of America's underground water stores are drying up, study finds

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Huh? Golf courses I assume? Not that I know, but it would be interesting to have a study of water usage for golf courses. I suspect it's mostly minimal impact, even if it's also superfluous use.

> Not that I know, but it would be interesting to have a study of water usage for golf courses. I suspect it's mostly minimal impact, even if it's also superfluous use.

I'm guessing it's mostly a emotional reaction, which is 100% understandable. A bit like someone peeing on you while you enter the ocean to swim. I mean yes, I can just wash it off, but it is a tad disrespectful I'd say.

Re: Majority of America's underground water stores are drying up, study finds

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Yes, almonds require a lot of water to grow also. Oat, soy and coconut require orders of magnitude less.

"It takes a bonkers 1,611 US gallons (6,098 litres) to produce 1 litre of almond milk,” says the Sustainable Restaurant Association’s Pete Hemingway." [1] So that would be 6,000 gallons of water to make 1 Gallon of Almond Milk... that seems to be more than your 800 Gallon figure for cow milk.... Also you will take my Steak and Hamburger over my dead body... America will never, not in may life time, give up Beef, it i…

1) The link to their source doesn't go anywhere. Other sources have very different numbers: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1092652/volume-of-water-...

2) If you truly cared about this and weren't just using it to justify your milk consumption, why wouldn't you switch to a far less water intensive milk like soy milk?

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Literally 0 impact as compared to farming.

At least farming feeds people rather than taking water from communities purely for profit

Just because two things "feed people" doesn't mean they are equally efficient and have equal justification, especially in the face of resource scarcity or shared finite resources.

In the same way that taking a private jet and walking somewhere both "move people".

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They could have drank it for free or for minimal tax investment but now they have to give money to Nestle to do so while also polluting the planet with plastic bottles

> now they have to give money to Nestle to do so while also polluting the planet with plastic bottles Very few people have to drink Nestle’s products.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/oct/04/ontario-six-n...

Re: Majority of America's underground water stores are drying up, study finds

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Electricity came up around the same time and never stopped - the tech involved with electronics and electric everything has far surpassed that of oil and gas. There were electric cars at the same time ICEs were being invented. Oil and gas won for selfish reasons.

Electrical generators were powered by fossil fuels (excluding hydro) until nuclear/solar/wind became economical. There would be no electricity without fossil fuels, full stop.

From WP:

"In 1878, the world's first hydroelectric power scheme was developed at Cragside in Northumberland, England, by William Armstrong. It was used to power a single arc lamp in his art gallery.[13] The old Schoelkopf Power Station No. 1, US, near Niagara Falls, began to produce electricity in 1881. The first Edison hydroelectric power station, the Vulcan Street Plant, began operating September 30, 1882, in Appleton, Wisconsin, with an output of about 12.5 kilowatts.[14] By 1886 there were 45 hydroelectric power stations in the United States and Canada; and by 1889 there were 200 in the United States alone.[1]"

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