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Re: Secure Shell chrome (killer) app

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Can someone please explain to me why I would possibly want to run a terminal emulator inside of my web browser, instead of just using the terminal emulator app that my system ships with?

As a followup, my terminal windows are rarely the same size as my browser windows. I don't like resizing my browser windows in general because the browser will remember the new size, even though it was meant as a once-off window. So having a browser-sized terminal doesn't seem like a very good experience. Additionally, it doesn't even work right. In a screen-controlling app like vim it seems fine, but in the normal s…

You can file bugs on the chromiom-os project.

http://code.google.com/p/chromium-os/issues/list?can=2&q...

Re: Secure Shell chrome (killer) app

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I opened chrome to check this out, but it wants me to "sign in" to install the extension. For me this is a bridge too far: I don't care to tell google about every single extension/application (extensplication?) I'm using. Like many people, I'm trying to step back from google/facebook snooping, and this would be a solid step toward such big brothering. I suppose next they'll see what email providers I use and whom I c…

I wholeheartedly agree.

To those saying "who cares" consider that you may wish to use this extension on a computer where you don't feel comfortable issuing your Google login credentials.

Re: Secure Shell chrome (killer) app

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I opened chrome to check this out, but it wants me to "sign in" to install the extension. For me this is a bridge too far: I don't care to tell google about every single extension/application (extensplication?) I'm using. Like many people, I'm trying to step back from google/facebook snooping, and this would be a solid step toward such big brothering. I suppose next they'll see what email providers I use and whom I c…

I wholeheartedly agree. To those saying "who cares" consider that you may wish to use this extension on a computer where you don't feel comfortable issuing your Google login credentials.

I don't think you need to issue your Google login credentials to _use_ the extension, only to install it. Further, if you're on a computer where you don't feel comfortable using your Google login, why would you feel comfortable using ssh (via this extension) on the same said computer?

Re: Secure Shell chrome (killer) app

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this is insanely awesome. as it stands right now, yes its "just ssh". But open up the developer toolbar and you'll notice this thing is rendering HTML inside of webkit. It doesn't take a genius to see this is a few baby steps from making it possible to render arbitrary graphics in the shell. edit: I might go out on a limb here and say this project is something that is going to be looked at as a real inflection point…

Shameless self plug: https://github.com/hoeck/schirm . It does exactly that, rendering arbitary html (inside iframes) between lines of a vt100 compatible terminal emulator, using escape-sequences to denote document data and images. Works quite well as a proof of concept. What annoys me so far is that its relatively slow (running find on a large dir may take ~20 times longer than on gnome-terminal) and the headaches a…

There is also https://github.com/breuleux/terminus.

Re: Secure Shell chrome (killer) app

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I thought NaCl couldn't open raw (tcp) sockets? I thought it was limited to WebSockets.

Apps may have fewer security restrictions than pages.

NaCl apps are only usable right now via the Chrome Web Store, unless you've manually enabled them to be allowed elsewhere.

Re: Secure Shell chrome (killer) app

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I thought NaCl couldn't open raw (tcp) sockets? I thought it was limited to WebSockets.

This app is part of a small whitelist of apps that can make this type of connection. It's a temporary solution though. The Chrome team is working on ways to make the functionality more widely available.

This is incredibly exciting, if not also a bit scary. Thanks for the info.

Re: Secure Shell chrome (killer) app

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I opened chrome to check this out, but it wants me to "sign in" to install the extension. For me this is a bridge too far: I don't care to tell google about every single extension/application (extensplication?) I'm using. Like many people, I'm trying to step back from google/facebook snooping, and this would be a solid step toward such big brothering. I suppose next they'll see what email providers I use and whom I c…

> Like many people, I'm trying to step back from google/facebook snooping, and this would be a solid step toward such big brothering. Google seems to be working on this. If you've ever seen someone without a Google account try to use Android for the first time you can see how much effort they are putting into stopping people from using their products.

>Google seems to be working on this. If you've ever seen someone without a Google account try to use Android for the first time you can see how much effort they are putting into stopping people from using their products.

You press the "skip" button and then don't try to launch Gmail or Google Play or anything else that understandably needs a Google account.

What is so... appalling about that. There is no effort to "stop people" from using an Android phone without Google. Further it's a pretty silly attack on Google given their competitors and the fact that you bought... a Google Android phone...

(edit: speaking about the Nexus line of phones which I would tend to argue best reflects Google's "effort".)

Re: Secure Shell chrome (killer) app

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I don't know that this really rises to the level of a "killer" app. Serious ssh users are, of course, already quite happy with their terminal emulators and use platforms that support them natively. I find it very hard to believe (though I'm willing to be surprised) a chrome extension is going to present me with the performance, platform integration, or keyboard navigability I get and demand from gnome-terminal. I'd p…

Why are we happy? We are not. Terminal emulation needs to die, but as you point out, there is no reasonable substitute yet. I have enjoyed toying with interesting experiments like the MPW shell, and I support every attempt to replace or kill the ridiculous anachronism that is termcap. It's like we're the SCA and unix is our ren fest.

Upvote for the MPW Shell reference.
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