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Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

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Post by hypeibole » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 6:28 PM UTC

tonfa wrote: post #45

Timothee wrote: post #42

It looks from other comments that CVs are slightly different than resumes (I really had no idea, I just thought "resume" was a wording preference in the US), but I'll question your mention of your high school and "classes prépa"… M.Sc. from ENS Lyon >>> whatever high school/prep school you went to. I have recently revamped my resume with one goal of removing unnecessary or irrelevant information. E.g. I removed my st…

> I'll question your mention of your high school and "classes prépa"… M.Sc. from ENS Lyon >>> whatever high school/prep school you went to. It's France, showing off the elitist school you went to is important, even years after graduating.

What do you mean France?

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

#52

Post by scott_s » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 6:53 PM UTC

SeanLuke wrote: post #19

There's a problem with this CV: the publications are not numbered. That's not just a nitpick. It's important. CVs grow to many pages of publications and when you apply for a job people will refer to your publication by number when discussing your CV with one another. I do publication numbering like this: \usepackage{bibentry} %% cventry facility. Use \begin{cventries} and \end{cventries}, %% and in between you do \cv…

I'm surprised you say that. We tend to say "The paper from XXXX-YYYY" where XXXX is a year, and YYYY is a conference or journal.

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

#53

Post by nickbarnwell » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 6:55 PM UTC

kurtsiegfried wrote: post #20

Very nice, I like the phrasing of: "Since 2009" instead of 2009 to present, and the fb://username instead of long URL. Mine is on GitHub as well, though in the form of a web service serving JSON objects instead of XeTeX. https://github.com/kurtsiegfried/Resume-Web-Service

I jumped on GitHub for resume hosting as well, although in the form of GitHub pages instead [1]. Mine is different again in turn in that it's straight up HTML. I had toyed with presenting it as JSON but decided that would be deleterious to callbacks at job fairs and the like. No non-startup is going to

`curl -H 'Accept: application/json' http://#{mysite}

[1] http://nickbarnwell.github.com/

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

#54

Post by achy » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 7:32 PM UTC

vog wrote: post #27

If would be great if there was a small comparison with the standard packages (currvita, moderncv). What's similar? What's different? Why writing an own package instead of building upon the existing ones? Just for fun, or are there technical or organizatorial reasons?

The benefits of writing your own package is that you can post it on HN as a 'news' article and have thousands of potential employers look at it without applying to any specific jobs... :)

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

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Post by mouly » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 8:27 PM UTC

The readability can be improved a lot: * The grey text has very low contrast. * The color coding seems arbitrary * I would indicate links use a blue text, and remove the turquoise box.

You don't want the CV to take the reader's attention from the content and answering the question - "do I want to hire this person?"

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

#56

Post by SeanLuke » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 8:41 PM UTC

baddox wrote: post #37

SeanLuke wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a CV, not a resume. In the US, CVs are used largely by academics and researchers in lieu of resumes. In addition to the standard resume stuff (but usually omitting things like "objectives" and "skills"), CVs include your publications, presentations, professional service, products and patents etc., and in some cases grants and teaching experience. All of it. Unlike resumes, CVs can go on as long as needed.

I understand that the length is standard for a CV, but I can't imagine a situation where the third page of any document would change someone's mind about you in consideration for a job, grant, or other opportunity. Wouldn't it still make more sense to distribute a single page with a curated subset of your work, perhaps with a URL to a more exhaustive CV?

A CV is like a Viking chest-pounding saga about your Great Deeds. The currency of research and academia is publications, presentations, and service. You want to show that you have this in spades. Essentially, a CV is a portfolio, not a resume.

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

#57

Post by SeanLuke » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 8:44 PM UTC

scott_s wrote: post #52

SeanLuke wrote: post #19

There's a problem with this CV: the publications are not numbered. That's not just a nitpick. It's important. CVs grow to many pages of publications and when you apply for a job people will refer to your publication by number when discussing your CV with one another. I do publication numbering like this: \usepackage{bibentry} %% cventry facility. Use \begin{cventries} and \end{cventries}, %% and in between you do \cv…

I'm surprised you say that. We tend to say "The paper from XXXX-YYYY" where XXXX is a year, and YYYY is a conference or journal.

Sure. But it's my experience in grant panels or promotion and tenure committees that someone says "yeah but what about the paper on X?" and someone else says "which one?" and the response is "publication number seventeen".

At any rate, numbering is de rigeur.

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

#58

Post by leeny » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 8:46 PM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #29

Since we're all sharing our LaTex resumes: http://www.jedberg.net/hire_jeremy_edberg.html My resume and source code are both on there.

i really like that you have both a regular and short version of your resume.

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

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Post by leeny » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 8:48 PM UTC

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #47

dabeeeenster wrote: post #5

3 pages is too many!

I don't understand this sentiment. What am I supposed to do? Even coming into college, my list of significant (and/or self-launched) projects and work experiences were too many to list on a single page alongside my education and list of "skills" (languages mostly). I spent a loooot of time making it look great and utilize space efficiency and I feel like a Chinese foot-binder whenever I get a new job or publish a new…

i'd suggest having one copy for when you apply to large companies where your resume may have to go through HR, and one copy for when you're applying to startups. for the latter, just submit something that is legible and has a good signal-to-noise ratio.

Re: Show HN: Open-sourcing my CV template [Helvetica, XeTeX, TikZ & Biblatex]

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Post by SeanLuke » Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 8:49 PM UTC

thisAintNoGame wrote: post #36

levesque wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should put journal publications before conference publications, as they are generally regarded as more important.

That depends on field. In most areas of computer science, conferences are more important than journals (journals generally just publish extended conference papers).

I am not aware of any CS field where conferences are in general more important than journals. Though there are a few conferences whose rigor approaches journal publication.

I think the standard ordering is: books, chapters, journal articles, strongly refereed conferences, lightly refereed workshops, unrefereed works, dissertation. And numbered! Good grief.