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Americans are fake and the Dutch are rude (2022)

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Re: Americans are fake and the Dutch are rude (2022)

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As someone who recently moved from The Netherlands to USA, I found this article to be really great at explaining the reason why many Europeans find Americans to be fake. I myself had experienced all of the social experiences the author talked about, and found myself confused as to what a "friend" was in The USA. I also find it very interesting how the author described emotions as cultured - not just something which w…

There is a huge different between a blue collar New Yorker and a Palo Alto techie in culture though. I’ll take the nyc rudeness over the fake politeness in California. As a European I fund New Yorkers much easier to connect and befriend people than people from both the pacific coast.

Same. NYC types will tell you to go fuck yourself on the street for walking on the wrong half of the sidewalk, and will give you the finger for basically any reason. But in private I found most of them to be warm, vibrant people. And, paradoxically, when I slipped on the street, random strangers were immediately jumping to my side to see if I'm okay and helping me up.

To paraphrase an old boss who was from NJ: we respect you enough to stab you in the front, and never in the back.

California, by comparison, was just as ruthless as Wall Street corpo raiders, but with a thick veneer of BS smattered all over it.

Re: Americans are fake and the Dutch are rude (2022)

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>a woman who grew up in China That's an odd way to say what you're saying

I assume you're implying they meant she's Chinese. From GP's text I assumed she's not Chinese but for whatever reason (parents worked there, she was adopted as a grown-ish kid, something else) she spent most of her formative years there. Maybe we're both wrong but on its face what GP wrote doesn't strike as odd at all to me.

she could be chinese, but given how many chinese live in america, stating that she grew up in china is a helpful distinction.

Re: Americans are fake and the Dutch are rude (2022)

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As a Frenchman, when I worked in the valley, people told me to tone it down, that I could come off as rude. On my side, I wanted to slap those people calling others they barely knew "friends", overselling their lunch as "amazing", assuring an outcome with certainty, virtue signaling or refusing to say when something was completely wrong. It's like they were always in a tiny marketing process. Eventually, I learned to…

Felt the same in Ohio. I'm polish. Spent 6 months at Ohio State as exchange student and I loved it and hated it. I remember once being asked how was I and me answering honestly, just for an american friend to reprimend me on actually answering. I was like, "why the hell you asking how am I if you don't care?". Got to admit though no place is easier to make friends than US. This excess talking can often lay fertile gr…

ISMO on learning american expressions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNV0rMdeW60

Re: Americans are fake and the Dutch are rude (2022)

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Case in point: in German, we even have the same words. They are mildly antiquated, but "Gesellig" and "Geselle" are almost 1:1 translations from the Dutch "gezellig" and "gezel". As a German who has worked in the Netherlands, I never felt a big difference in everyday attitude (though I have to admit the company is based very near to the German border, so maybe the differences would be bigger when compared to Amsterda…

So, where do you stand on Oachkatzlschwoaf versus Eichhörnchenschwanz? O:-)

As a middle-western German, it's obviously Eichhörnchenschwanz! Haha ;)

Re: Americans are fake and the Dutch are rude (2022)

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Case in point: in German, we even have the same words. They are mildly antiquated, but "Gesellig" and "Geselle" are almost 1:1 translations from the Dutch "gezellig" and "gezel". As a German who has worked in the Netherlands, I never felt a big difference in everyday attitude (though I have to admit the company is based very near to the German border, so maybe the differences would be bigger when compared to Amsterda…

Even more, in north western Germany they have a dialect called "Plattdeutsch" that is closer to the Dutch language than to German.

https://pdc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsilfaanisch_Deitsch The Pennsylvania 'Dutch' Pälzisch dialect is enough to give a headache... https://pfl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riograndenser_Hunsr%C3%BCckis... Pälz-Portuguese creole
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