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Framework Laptop 16 Review

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Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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Will there be a way to sell old parts back to Framework as we start upgrading computers?

I'm not a part of Framework, but I imagine they're less interested in becoming their own secondary market.

We don't plan to have a take-back program, but we have shared in the past that we plan to launch a consumer to consumer resale path in our Marketplace.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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I'm really interested in getting a Framework to run as my Linux laptop. Does anyone have experience using GNOME on their Framework (preferably AMD)? How is the heat dissipation and battery life? My main issue with most laptops is how they get uncomfortably hot after a while. That and also bad trackpads.

I'm running gnome in fedora silverblue on an Intel 13" Framework and I only get ~6 hours of battery life doing web browsing, school work, light programming, and watching videos.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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I'm happy to answer any questions folks have on this product.

Are there any plans to offer larger batteries and/or improve battery efficiency? From what I've read battery life is still an issue many seem to be having. With the greatest respect it's 2024, a laptop should be capable of 8 hours at the very minimum for a mid range model but I'm seeing a lot of people getting sub 2 hours. The 16 ticks all the boxes for me but I've held off for now as having the possibility of worse…

Very likely. They already announced recently a better battery for the 13 models so I don't see why they wouldn't if they have the opportunity

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I'll chime in and say that I love my FW13. It's a great machine. I got the DIY kit and had my 7yo put it together. It was straightforward with a little help from dad (even installing Ubuntu!). Now we fight over who gets to use it.

I love my FW13 too. I just wish it had more options for components. I can of course pick my own SSD and RAM configuration but that's true of every Lenovo laptop. I wish I could get a 4K screen, an eInk screen, a touchscreen, a Dvorak keyboard, a OLED keyboard, an IMU/GPS/barometer expansion module, a pico projector expansion module, a software-defined-radio expansion module, a larger aperture webcam module, an IR web…

I get that. There's tons of amazing possibilities and it's fun to imagine them and to hope they come out. I'm going to try to make something with my kiddo for the FW, but of course the focus will be on bonding and helping my kiddo build skills, understanding, and connection. So we might not quite get to putting the e-ink reader on the backside of the lid.

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I'll chime in and say that I love my FW13. It's a great machine. I got the DIY kit and had my 7yo put it together. It was straightforward with a little help from dad (even installing Ubuntu!). Now we fight over who gets to use it.

It's awesome to hear that. A big part of creating Framework was the urge to prevent a world where kids could no longer tinker with their parents' computers.

Any chance you’ll ship to Switzerland soon? Our only options are to ship it to Germany or France, go pick it up, pay import fees and taxes on top of the country’s 20% VAT, and then be denied warranty because delivering to a pick up address voids the warranty. It’s quite frustrating :/

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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When can I get an Ortholinear keyboard module? I will happily switch from my MacBook air the moment Ortho is supported on a laptop. Did anything ever come of the collab with Jack Humbert?

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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I have the DIY FW13 Intel 11th Gen with Fedora. I've had an overall positive experience and have enjoyed tinkering with it.

My only negative with it has been the issue specific to 11th gens where the CMOS drains and eventually dies if the laptop is left unplugged for days-to-weeks at a time.

On the whole Framework handled the issue well, there was no permanent fix without soldering or replacing the board. The company was upfront, provided support, a replacement battery, and even published a how-to on modifying the mainboard after the fact. With a start-up I was expecting some bugs. This one was irritating but not a deal breaker. I think how they handled the problem and how they've proven their commitment to upgradeability through the 12th, 13th, and Ryzen boards speaks well of the company.

While I am extremely keen on the AMD versions that have rolled out recently, I can't justify the purchase when my current FW13 still works well enough.

The FW16 probably isn't for me but I hope it's successful. I really want to see the docking station that can double as an eGPU using the FW16 discrete GPU module. There was a prototype mentioned in passing about a year ago but it's been radio silence since then. I hope the success of Framework laptops and the growing market for gaming handhelds like the Steam Deck makes the modular eGPU concept a little more reasonable. It's still incredibly niche but one can dream.

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