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Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by slurpyb »

jascha_eng wrote: post #137
biotopia wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The layoff announcement mentioned that the 11% staff laid off is global. It's possible a lot of people laid off are actually in China, since Tencent owns 100% of Riot Games. There is a trend for Chinese companies to not hire workers that are over 35 years old, so some of these employees might be unemployed for a long time. Also, Chinese economy is in the crapper right now.

Riot is an american company though, I'm pretty sure they have most of their employees in the US and not China.

Yeah they kinda just invest and stand back (with west investments at least?), maybe they are conflating tencent with netease. Are they the same parent organization…? Am i a tencent subsidiary?

Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by fatnoah »

BadHumans wrote: post #44
joshuamcginnis wrote: post #15

Minimum six months severance pay + healthcare + cash bonus. That is incredibly generous all things considered.

I got laid off from a gaming company and my severance was pitiful and amounted to 1 month of rent. I think this is a fantastic severance

I got laid off and my "severance" was the minimum mandated WARN act period and "don't mail your stuff back to us." Of course, the layoff happened the month before equity vesting and annual bonus happened.

Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by araes »

biotopia wrote: post #122
joshuamcginnis wrote: post #15

Minimum six months severance pay + healthcare + cash bonus. That is incredibly generous all things considered.

The layoff announcement mentioned that the 11% staff laid off is global. It's possible a lot of people laid off are actually in China, since Tencent owns 100% of Riot Games. There is a trend for Chinese companies to not hire workers that are over 35 years old, so some of these employees might be unemployed for a long time. Also, Chinese economy is in the crapper right now.

Their offices around the world can be found here: https://www.riotgames.com/en/work-with-us/offices Out of 20, only 1 in China, Shanghai.

Most are fairly high cost living locations outside the US (ex: Sydney, Tokyo, Seoul, Paris, Dubai). Mumbai and Sao Paulo are not cheap for India and Brazil.

Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by itishappy »

vsnf wrote: post #132
riffraff wrote: post #85

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High heels are foot fetish? I thought it was about naked feet (e.g. all Tarantino movies). This is the first time I hear of liking heels as having a foot fetish.

What’s with the vilification of people with a foot fetish anyway? Seems like they’re always getting called out, ragged on, and otherwise treated as filth. Its just the human body, idk what the big deal is.

I think it's exposure. It's a relatively low-taboo fetish, and (unlike most others) it's acceptable/possible to post/find feet on traditional social media. It's possible to post feet pics and accidentally find yourself engaged with a sexual subculture you were not intending to encourage.

Also wtf WikiFeet.

Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by Blackthorn »

vsnf wrote: post #132
riffraff wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High heels are foot fetish? I thought it was about naked feet (e.g. all Tarantino movies). This is the first time I hear of liking heels as having a foot fetish.

What’s with the vilification of people with a foot fetish anyway? Seems like they’re always getting called out, ragged on, and otherwise treated as filth. Its just the human body, idk what the big deal is.

I don't recall vilifying anyone because they had a foot fetish. I do, however, think it's ridiculous to push your fetish into the official art direction of virtually all the female characters of an entire game.

Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by d4mi3n »

dabber wrote: post #130
d4mi3n wrote: post #87

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Shopify is my guess; I was part of that layoff and the timing lines up. They had those exact terms and paid them out in addition to WARN act minimums contingent on signing of a severance agreement. I had the same offer but declined due to issues I had with the severance agreement.

> I had the same offer but declined due to issues I had with the severance agreement. Is it too prying to ask what that means in terms of your outcome? Idk what the WARN act is, and I understand that my question may be neive or too personal to post an answer to publicly, but I'm curious what the alternative to signing is/was and if the answer is generally applicable or specific to the company/agreement.

Not at all—I would not have mentioned this if I was unwilling to talk about it.

The WARN Act[1] is a bit of federal legislation that applies during mass layoffs. There are some variations from state to state, but it generally ensures anyone caught in a mass layoff (50 to 100+ people) is required to receive either 2-months advance notice or 2-months salary+medical benefits.

When Shopify performed their layoffs, there were subject to WARN payouts as they did not furnish 2-months notice.

The severance agreement they gave me and others paid out an additional 8 weeks + 1 week per year of seniority, contingent on signing.

I declined to sign, which was painful, but my main concerns were over two clauses:

* a non-mutual NDA Shopify was unwilling to change to a mutual NDA.

* a provision to appear in court on Shopify’s behalf, uncompensated, for an indeterminate about of time, whenever requested.

There was a lot of other oddness about that whole layoff I’ll leave out here for the sake of brevity, but the whole process was quite the shitshow.

1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retrai...

Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by mjr00 »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #135
mjr00 wrote: post #55

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> We know it has somebody with a foot fetish. Look at the footwear of all the female characters (at least the ones made before 2016, I haven't played it since then). ehh?? On the character models or splash arts? I've played for a long time and have never heard anyone else say this, outside of the French Maid Nidalee skin[0] which is obvious foot fetish bait. The most notable foot-related art commentary was always aro…

Briar splash art also features very prominent feet [0]. When it was first leaked a lot of the discourse around it was focused on the detailed feet. [0] https://www.artstation.com/artwork/5vOzOP

Yeah fair enough on that one, though that was last year and not pre-2016 as the original commenter was saying.

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Post by goosejuice »

piva00 wrote: post #124
justin66 wrote: post #117

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One week per year of service is so standard, no company is going to be shamed by it. That doesn't mean it's not lame.

Is so standard in the USA , it's not the standard in any other place on Earth I worked at (Brazil, USA, Sweden). Even in Brazil you'd get at least a few months of severance.

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Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by bcrosby95 »

goalonetwo wrote: post #104
bcrosby95 wrote: post #71

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I have 3 kids. My grocery bill alone is 2.5k/month.

How are the people making 65k as a household (median income per household in my state) managing this? I don't even understand how 2.5k$ grocery per month is possible. We are 3 in our households (young kid) and probably spending closer to 1k$ per month groceries and eating super healthy/organic.

Keep in mind we have 5 in our household to your 3.

They probably eat cheaper food? We do a lot of fruits and veggies. But not organic. Eating out is too expensive, we don't do that.

Also, I live in Southern California, it might be cheaper where you are.

Re: Changes at Riot Games and the road ahead

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Post by zen928 »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #148
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #47

Every year Riot releases a new cinematic for League of Legends to celebrate the start of the season. Last year they released the worst cinematic in all of their history. This announcement makes me wonder if their sudden rapid growth was at least partially the reason for why they ended up shipping such a bad video. In the last year Riot also started to sell severely overpriced skins, despite a lot of outrage from the…

Is not being able to buy a skin some kind of tragedy? It's a luxury item at any price. I'm sure there is a kid somewhere crying into his controller because he's been rejected by his online friends because he's using the default skin, but I think he's learning a valuable life lesson.

It's a potentially negative financial marker to the success of their business model of selling skins if their skins don't sell, I don't think there's any more sentiment to the statement beyond that
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