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Re: Show HN: A self-hosted, AWS-based secrets manager

#31

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I would disagree. Sure, you don't own the hardware, but you have total control over Embrasure's functionality within your self-contained instance. Wikipedia: "Self-hosting is the practice of running and maintaining a website or service using a private web server, instead of using a service outside of someone's own control."

Yes, correct, AWS Secrets Manager is out of your own control. You don't control it. AWS does. They can change it or even end it as a product any day they like.

and they can also end all their other services on a whim. Are they gonna do it? dont think so, but they could

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted, AWS-based secrets manager

#32

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Based on a strict definition, I agree that Embrasure may not be considered self-hosted, but I don't think that's the "prevailing expectation." For example, look at Infisical's documentation[0], and you'll see they offer self-hosting solutions on AWS, GCP, Azure, and more. [0] https://infisical.com/docs/self-hosting/overview

> Based on a strict definition, I agree that Embrasure may not be considered self-hosted, but I don't think that's the "prevailing expectation." I wont 100% discount that I live in a bubble, but try ask 100 random people what "self hosted" means, I would strongly guess that very very few says "I can (only) spin up some resources on AWS and deploy it there"

> ask 100 random people

I don't think it should be left to the opinion of 100 "random" people.

I'll quote Wikipedia[0] again: "Self-hosting is the practice of running and maintaining a website or service using a private web server..."

Embrasure is built on a Virtual Private Cloud instance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services)

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted, AWS-based secrets manager

#33

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Yes, correct, AWS Secrets Manager is out of your own control. You don't control it. AWS does. They can change it or even end it as a product any day they like.

and they can also end all their other services on a whim. Are they gonna do it? dont think so, but they could

The point remains though that AWS is not self-hosting.

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted, AWS-based secrets manager

#35

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> Based on a strict definition, I agree that Embrasure may not be considered self-hosted, but I don't think that's the "prevailing expectation." I wont 100% discount that I live in a bubble, but try ask 100 random people what "self hosted" means, I would strongly guess that very very few says "I can (only) spin up some resources on AWS and deploy it there"

> ask 100 random people I don't think it should be left to the opinion of 100 "random" people. I'll quote Wikipedia[0] again: "Self-hosting is the practice of running and maintaining a website or service using a private web server..." Embrasure is built on a Virtual Private Cloud instance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services)

> I don't think it should be left to the opinion of 100 "random" people.

well judging by the other comments here, you will be getting even less who agree with your definition

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted, AWS-based secrets manager

#36

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and they can also end all their other services on a whim. Are they gonna do it? dont think so, but they could

The point remains though that AWS is not self-hosting.

exactly my point aswell, or atleast that it cannot be limited to AWS

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted, AWS-based secrets manager

#37

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SSM is a great alternative, but it's a managed solution. Embrasure is self-hosted.

It’s self managed, AWS is hosting it. This may seem like nit picking, but I can assure you confusing your audience will hamper the success of your project if you are aiming for growth.

I do wonder why OP is so set on calling it self hosted, when it seems quite obvious that more or less nobody has the same definition of self hosted
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