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I'd even go out of my way and say that undecillion of IP addresses ought to be enough for anybody.
Bold prediction! Let's see if it holds true in 200 years when every cybernetic cell in your body is individually addressable from the public internet.
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You want a ULA (unique local address) instead of link-local. Link-local can sometimes mean needing to append the interface name to your address and a bunch of other weirdness. If you pick a ULA prefix and announce it (or assign some statically) everything pretty much just works. I’ve been using them internally for over a year and it’s been great, they basically feel like RFC 1918 addresses.
+1. Link local is like connecting to a computer by mac address. The only time you’d ever want it is if you for some ungodly reason are worried that all other addressing systems have failed, or to bootstrap said systems.
All of this is made much harder by ISPs actively fighting IPv6 adoption. They have the usual moat babble that users do not request it. But in my case they even blocked /protocol/ 40. This was not documented anywhere. Imagine the layers of support I had to work through. Imagine working with new technology and be sure enough that you have exhausted all other possibilities. So learning practical IPv6 has been an uphill struggle for me. Years ago I had a SixXS tunnel going before major adoption took off. Now I am living in another place and wanted to look at it seriously. SixXS was no more so I went with HE. To my dismay dark corners of the Internet have abused these offerings so I have my tunnel disabled most of the time as it gives too much grief. And I have even worked in operations at a large ISP in the 90s. Adoption is not easy even for the willing.
But the reason? No one here seems to mention it: Money. There are no technical excuses left. But it is surely a nice moat.
Sorry for the rant! A good up to date book recommendation would be appreciated :-)
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The next few months may be hard for you. AWS will start charging for ipv4 on February 1st, so it’s likely that either a mass migration is coming or prices for many services will increase accordingly to pass that cost along to customers.
I was implementing IPv6 networking at an ISP/VPS provider in my 20s including customized Xen network startup scripts(because they didn't support v6 or VLANS). I'm turning 40. The next few months will be fine.
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IPvFoo author here. The problem is that there's no way to obtain the (hostname, ip) stream from Chrome/Firefox without requesting the "all websites" permission. In theory, browser vendors could define a narrowly-scoped permission that only reports (hostname, ip), or roll this functionality into the browser UI, but neither seems likely to happen. I made IPvFoo to promote IPv6 adoption, and wouldn't consider selling it…
The danger with extension acquisitions is malicious buyers, who use their ability to run arbitrary code to steal credit card numbers or credentials, insert or replace ads, run cryptocurrency mining, etc. For malicious purposes number of installations is the important thing, not how clonable the extension is.
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The last time I looked into this (which was a few years ago), ISPs were allocating blocks containing billions of IPv6 addresses to anyone who paid a nominal sum. So that vast address space might not last as long as it would seem...
One of the features of IPv6 is address autoconfiguration, obviating the need for a central authority like DHCP on v4. However, that only works with a /64 prefix and given that larger sites might want to have multiple subnets, that’s why most assignments are /56 or /48. But still. If all assignments were /48s, that would still leave room for 281 trillion networks which even I believe is enough for the foreseeable futu…
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The last time I looked into this (which was a few years ago), ISPs were allocating blocks containing billions of IPv6 addresses to anyone who paid a nominal sum. So that vast address space might not last as long as it would seem...
That sure sounds like a lot. But "billions" is less than a /64. Try "sextillions" (/56) or "septillions" (/48). Of course, when the denominator is "undecillions", it becomes clear that this is actually a non-issue.
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The address space has very little effect in the real world. Other latencies far outweigh anything measurable by having slightly more bits in the address. Eg: Sometimes IPv6 is faster due to routing differences.
That makes sense. I'm very curious about real-world studies. As a gamer, I'm especially interested in the affect ipv6 has on UDP for real time gaming applications. That's an area where even 5ms can have an enormous affect on the experience.
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I actually have the issue where my ISP gives me a single /64 and it makes it difficult to split between multiple LANs.
Shitty ISPs will always give you as little as they can get away with. If the software enforces /64, they'll you /64. Raise the limit to /128 and they'll give you /128. At least with the current state of affairs, you have the option to use ND Proxy instead of NAT66.
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ARIN recently handed out a /16 allocation to Capital One. That is one 65,025th of all of IPv6. A reasonable sized /32 allocation would have allowed for giving every ATM they operate worldwide its own globally routable /48.
I find the insistence of using /64s everywhere for networks frustrating. Any network larger than a /112 seems crazy, that's already 65k IPs per subnet. A /104 for every normal end user (256 subnets per user), or a /80 for massive companies like Capital One (4 billion subnets) should be more than enough.