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Re: Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right

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Post by hutzlibu »

nicbou wrote: post #12

Speaking only for myself with no sense of authority: there's something in the air that I'm not the only one feeling. Something very subtle seems off. The water is a little hotter, but subtly enough to say "nah it's not like that". The way I see it, tens of thousands took to the streets to make damn sure it won't be like that on their watch. The AfD has gotten louder and stronger last year, and it's reaching further a…

"The AfD has gotten louder and stronger last year, and it's reaching further and further into other parties' voter bases"

They reached into actual daily politics of the government - because Chancellor Scholz now also say things like "we have to start massivly kicking immigrants out"

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/olaf-scholz-ueber...

Re: Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right

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Post by baq »

shzhdbi09gv8ioi wrote: post #26
nicbou wrote: post #12

Speaking only for myself with no sense of authority: there's something in the air that I'm not the only one feeling. Something very subtle seems off. The water is a little hotter, but subtly enough to say "nah it's not like that". The way I see it, tens of thousands took to the streets to make damn sure it won't be like that on their watch. The AfD has gotten louder and stronger last year, and it's reaching further a…

Yea, Kremlin supported AfD is having a success. Putin is happily destroying european unity while we let their propaganda hit us in social media daily. [1] The Russia induced Syrian migrant wave of 2015 sure helped undermine the current right wing popularity rise. [2] And Russias involvement in making brexit happen... [3] 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AfD_pro-Russia_movement 2: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-weapon…

Kremlin supports everyone who is useful for them, Schroedder wasn't involved in AfD (last time I checked, which was a long time ago, anyway)

Re: Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right

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Post by stavros »

Is there a right-wing party in Germany? What happened in Greece was that a conservative party (one of the big two) started rising in power, and that took many votes away from the far right party. Maybe the case in Germany is that it's a choice between "far-right" and "leftish"?

Re: Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right

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Post by sighansen »

Throw84949 wrote: post #22

Current German goverment is also far right! They want to move migrants from Germany to other countries!

That is just plain untrue. They deport criminal migrants or migrants that are not under international asylum law. And we are talking about few thousands per year.

Re: Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right

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Post by fabian2k »

stavros wrote: post #44

Is there a right-wing party in Germany? What happened in Greece was that a conservative party (one of the big two) started rising in power, and that took many votes away from the far right party. Maybe the case in Germany is that it's a choice between "far-right" and "leftish"?

The mainstream right/conservative party is the CDU/CSU. The AFD is a newer party to the right of them.

Re: Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right

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Post by rvense »

jhh wrote: post #21
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #8

That's not a lot, in a country of millions. We do much more in France, every year. And it's been showing diminishing returns, as the government realized it could just not listen, and nothing bad would happen. In fact, it's a drop in the sea, compared to the rising casual xenophobia I can notice with my German acquaintances, friends, and even family. Medias, general discussions, and overall atmosphere is not going in…

I've never seen such a big protest. The transit system in Hamburg was completely overloaded. People standing around Alster lake, you couldn't even get close to the actual point where the protest was scheduled to happen. Those protests possibly may be ineffectual and what not - they certainly weren't small. Hamburg: https://image.stern.de/34382826/t/ud/v2/w960/r1.7778/-/19-ha... Both Hamburg and Munich protests needed…

I've seen the headlines "tens of thousands" in several places, but also estimates that 1.5 million people showed up.

Re: Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right

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Post by wahnfrieden »

mschuster91 wrote: post #11
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #8

That's not a lot, in a country of millions. We do much more in France, every year. And it's been showing diminishing returns, as the government realized it could just not listen, and nothing bad would happen. In fact, it's a drop in the sea, compared to the rising casual xenophobia I can notice with my German acquaintances, friends, and even family. Medias, general discussions, and overall atmosphere is not going in…

> That's not a lot, in a country of millions. We do much more in France, every year. And it's been showing diminishing returns, as the government realized it could just not listen, and nothing bad would happen. You guys have a protest culture I'm pretty envious of. Meanwhile, here in Germany you can and will get arrested for wearing a bicycle helmet...

What?
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