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Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

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Post by p-e-w »

ceroxylon wrote: post #12

As someone who grew up on IPv4, i will miss it, but the leap to 340 undecillion unique addresses is exciting in many ways so i think i can learn to live with this transition. If we ever need more than that, i can't even imagine what that future would look like.

The last time I looked into this (which was a few years ago), ISPs were allocating blocks containing billions of IPv6 addresses to anyone who paid a nominal sum.

So that vast address space might not last as long as it would seem...

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

#32

Post by Dwedit »

mise_en_place wrote: post #26
tlivolsi wrote: post #2

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You’ll get a lot of hate for it, but I think you’re speaking the truth. IPv6 is probably one of the worst modern standards (tied C++ templates). Nobody has ever made a convincing argument about the advantages of it over IPv4. Just another case of fools admiring complexity. PHB types love it even more, it’s filled with buzzwords like the “future” of networking.

Advantage: Not out of addresses.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

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Post by senkora »

mise_en_place wrote: post #26
tlivolsi wrote: post #2

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You’ll get a lot of hate for it, but I think you’re speaking the truth. IPv6 is probably one of the worst modern standards (tied C++ templates). Nobody has ever made a convincing argument about the advantages of it over IPv4. Just another case of fools admiring complexity. PHB types love it even more, it’s filled with buzzwords like the “future” of networking.

I think this post convincingly argues that there exists a world (but not ours, due to path dependence) where IPv6 is a better design: https://apenwarr.ca/log/20170810

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

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Post by [deleted] »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #4
tlivolsi wrote: post #2

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Can you explain this more? Why are you so tied to ipv4? I recently enabled IPv6 on my home network, and roughly 30-40% of all internet traffic goes through IPv6. Things are noticeably faster, especially connection times to online games on Xbox Live. My only complaint is that my ISP keeps changing the prefix every quarter or so, so my static addresses need to be updated in the firewall and other places. I am looking i…

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Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

#35

Post by internetter »

p-e-w wrote: post #31
ceroxylon wrote: post #12

As someone who grew up on IPv4, i will miss it, but the leap to 340 undecillion unique addresses is exciting in many ways so i think i can learn to live with this transition. If we ever need more than that, i can't even imagine what that future would look like.

The last time I looked into this (which was a few years ago), ISPs were allocating blocks containing billions of IPv6 addresses to anyone who paid a nominal sum. So that vast address space might not last as long as it would seem...

We never learn

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

#36

Post by rumdz »

Does ipv6 result in higher latencies? I could see larger addresses increasing latency, but then again I could also see a more efficient protocol resulting in lower net latency. I should probably read a book describing the differences.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

#37

Post by acdha »

ipaddr wrote: post #20
CSSer wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next few months may be hard for you. AWS will start charging for ipv4 on February 1st, so it’s likely that either a mass migration is coming or prices for many services will increase accordingly to pass that cost along to customers.

2024 is shaping up as the year people drop AWS

Given that this was AWS doing what their top two competitors were already doing, and that for most people it’s smaller than the price hikes GCP customers have had last year and coming February 1st, I’m skeptical that anyone significant is going to make this the issue they leave over.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

#38

Post by dang »

senkora wrote: post #33
mise_en_place wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’ll get a lot of hate for it, but I think you’re speaking the truth. IPv6 is probably one of the worst modern standards (tied C++ templates). Nobody has ever made a convincing argument about the advantages of it over IPv4. Just another case of fools admiring complexity. PHB types love it even more, it’s filled with buzzwords like the “future” of networking.

I think this post convincingly argues that there exists a world (but not ours, due to path dependence) where IPv6 is a better design: https://apenwarr.ca/log/20170810

Related:

The world in which IPv6 was a good design (2017) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37116487 - Aug 2023 (306 comments)

The world in which IPv6 was a good design (2017) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25568766 - Dec 2020 (131 comments)

The world in which IPv6 was a good design (2017) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20167686 - June 2019 (238 comments)

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

#39

Post by [deleted] »

mise_en_place wrote: post #26
tlivolsi wrote: post #2

[flagged]

You’ll get a lot of hate for it, but I think you’re speaking the truth. IPv6 is probably one of the worst modern standards (tied C++ templates). Nobody has ever made a convincing argument about the advantages of it over IPv4. Just another case of fools admiring complexity. PHB types love it even more, it’s filled with buzzwords like the “future” of networking.

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Re: Tell HN: Hacker News now supports IPv6

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Post by greyface- »

p-e-w wrote: post #31
ceroxylon wrote: post #12

As someone who grew up on IPv4, i will miss it, but the leap to 340 undecillion unique addresses is exciting in many ways so i think i can learn to live with this transition. If we ever need more than that, i can't even imagine what that future would look like.

The last time I looked into this (which was a few years ago), ISPs were allocating blocks containing billions of IPv6 addresses to anyone who paid a nominal sum. So that vast address space might not last as long as it would seem...

That sure sounds like a lot. But "billions" is less than a /64. Try "sextillions" (/56) or "septillions" (/48). Of course, when the denominator is "undecillions", it becomes clear that this is actually a non-issue.
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