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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by ETH_start »

g-b-r wrote: post #63

The chinese guy becomes a huge moron when he claims he touched her, but the pianist is a big jerk as well. Calling "freedom" the right to film (and publish on YouTube) anyone is ludicrous (yeah I know how many Americans do that). Your freedom ends when others' freedoms begin, and if you had to assume that everything you do in public would be stored forever for the world to see your freedom just tanked.

In the UK filming in public and publishing the film anywhere is indeed a right and freedom, so you're mocking British concepts of freedom and the pianist for defending it.

It's ludicrous to claim you have a right to force others to avert their cameras when you are out in public, and that otherwise, your rights are violated. If you don't want to be seen, wear a mask. The public and its eyes/cameras don't belong to you.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

#92

Post by ETH_start »

maxglute wrote: post #90
incomingpain wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She has more subscribers then I do. 1,200 subs... 600 views is ground breaking on her videos. Practically a youtube influencer extraordinaire. So here's the thing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6tmlXm7pMc He knows chinese folk and meme songs. He plays for chinese people often. There's no 'sinophobia' here. Flipside, you can see the flanking 'security' in the original video who were clearly there as well. That's…

Did I suggest she's an influencer extraordinaire? She makes career advice videos for Chinese international students. She has a small channel with small views like most entrepreneurs at this level. What skilled flanking security? You mean a bunch of other Chinese people in the group? A woman in the 30s isn't old enough to even be an important bureaucrat under PRC system that is tacitly gated by age. >He knows chinese…

Holding that many PRC flags is a clear indication of supporting the CCP. It's not bigotry to expose CCP supporters.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

#93

Post by SauciestGNU »

em-bee wrote: post #50
greatgib wrote: post #36

In this video, something that amaze me and that is quite unique to UK in my opinion is how correct and respectful are the police officers. In most countries, they would have used (and abused) of their authority to yell at the guy. Telling him that he has to shut up whatever they say even if not true. And otherwise it would be police offense. Here, despite the tension they keep their calm, try to stay respectful and n…

and he keeps calling her "kerry"? like is that her first name? in austria that would earn him a citation for disrespecting the police.

It's shockingly dystopian to me as an American that you could get a citation for using a cop's name.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

#94

Post by g-b-r »

ETH_start wrote: post #91
g-b-r wrote: post #63

The chinese guy becomes a huge moron when he claims he touched her, but the pianist is a big jerk as well. Calling "freedom" the right to film (and publish on YouTube) anyone is ludicrous (yeah I know how many Americans do that). Your freedom ends when others' freedoms begin, and if you had to assume that everything you do in public would be stored forever for the world to see your freedom just tanked.

In the UK filming in public and publishing the film anywhere is indeed a right and freedom, so you're mocking British concepts of freedom and the pianist for defending it. It's ludicrous to claim you have a right to force others to avert their cameras when you are out in public, and that otherwise, your rights are violated. If you don't want to be seen, wear a mask. The public and its eyes/cameras don't belong to you…

If that's British concept of freedom I'm most definitely mocking it.

You can't see that you're forcing people to act in some way when you film them.

The kind of freedom you defend here is the one of reducing other people's freedom (by a larger amount than what you sacrifice by not filming).

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

#95

Post by em-bee »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #93
em-bee wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and he keeps calling her "kerry"? like is that her first name? in austria that would earn him a citation for disrespecting the police.

It's shockingly dystopian to me as an American that you could get a citation for using a cop's name.

part of the reason is that german language still distinguishes between personal and formal adressing, whereas in english it is all "you". using a firstname is clearly informal, although i feel that in this video the addressing does not come across as informal or showing lack of respect, more like familiarity of some form that this policewoman somehow allowed.

german/austrian culture is still very much about respect. and as i wrote on a seemingly completely different topic yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39077136 german/austrian culture is way more conservative than the rest of the world (and austria is more conservative than germany) , at least for western ideas of what is conservative. in different aspects some asian cultures (most notably japan) are extremely conservative in their own way.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

bemusedthrow75 wrote: post #87
cassianoleal wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is definitely milking it. Note that he's absolutely in his right to film and publish this. The people complaining have no standing which is why in the end it got filmed and published. Also the policewoman's stance was absolutely disgraceful.

He's milking it so much he's on Mike Graham's show on TalkTV tonight. This is not a sign of good faith, in my experience.

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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by ShaolinTrooper »

The thing is that the Chinese people didn't want to be filmed because they knew it will be published on Youtube for revenue and that's what they didn't want. They allow people to film on a normal basis because it will not be published for profit. That's what Brendan didn't understand in the first place.

The Chinese man was in the wrong for escalating the situation gathering more attention and it seemed like he was making it look like they were being oppressed. We need the side of the Chinese people on this. We'll see.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

#99

Post by morninglight »

swat535 wrote: post #96

FYI, OP has posted an update, looks like they are trying take it down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ1BtQ6AEyM

The "Chinese" people in the video need to be positively identified.

Their demeanor is strikingly out of line with the behavior of Chinese tourists.

Their tactics resemble a Falun Gong effort to discredit the CCP.

The first step is to identify them.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

#100

Post by ShaolinTrooper »

mmh0000 wrote: post #82
g-b-r wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extremely bad Were you born after they spread, by any chance?

My point is, you're being filmed in most all public spaces all the time. Some rando filming doesn't really change the amount of privacy you do or don't have. EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/thrxuy/iso_surveill...

There's a difference.

CCTV footages aren't used for profit and it will not be published to the public.

Brendan's live video is used for profit and is published for everyone to see.

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