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High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by citricsquid »

MattBearman wrote: post #17

The ruling is mostly full of shit: Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists I'd like to see evidence to back this up, innocent until proven guilty and all. The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale No, it doesn't. TPB doesn't provide any content at all. Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine I…

> No, it doesn't. TPB doesn't provide any content at all. Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine Inch Nails recent releases have been legally made available over bittorrent in 24/96 high quality.

And my drug dealer gave $50 to a pregnant woman so that she could get a taxi to the hospital.

If you want to argue why this ruling is wrong you should address the issues of censorship, arguing that The Pirate Bay isn't a site built around copyright infringement (which it is and the founders openly admit this) just does a dis-service to the real problem here (censorship). TPB is a for-profit copyright infringement enabling enterprise, that's why it exists, arguing otherwise is not worth your energy (because ultimately, what does it matter if it enables copyright infringement or not? So do most websites that don't intend on doing that) instead argue that any government should not be disabling access to a website.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by jentulman »

dabeeeenster wrote: post #16
rmc wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK has also censored Wikipedia in the past.

Really? Link?

Saying 'The UK' is a little over the top possibly, I think this is a reference to this,

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/British_ISPs_restrict_access_to_...

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by driverdan »

VMG wrote: post #27
MattBearman wrote: post #17

The ruling is mostly full of shit: Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists I'd like to see evidence to back this up, innocent until proven guilty and all. The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale No, it doesn't. TPB doesn't provide any content at all. Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine I…

> Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine Inch Nails recent releases have been legally made available over bittorrent in 24/96 high quality. I don't understand that argument - who ever claimed that TPB only has infringing material? > According to wikipedia, TPB earnings in 2006 were $102,035.05 US, and expenses in 2009 were $112,590.40 US (couldn't find data fo…

> Weird that they don't publish the numbers themselves. I wonder what the reason might be...

They're a private company. They're under no obligation to provide the public with their financial data.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by nagrom »

rmc wrote: post #9
anons2011 wrote: post #3

Are we trying to emulate China or Iran? Obviously a block like this for any tech-savvy person is absolutely meaningless.

The UK has also censored Wikipedia in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Watch_Foundation_and_W...

That's the wikipedia link to the time that the unelected committee called the internet Watch Foundation managed to cut off access to Wikipedia after they judged that legally-available album art on one band's entry constituted child pornography and summarily blocked wikipedia.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by viraptor »

af3 wrote: post #4
anons2011 wrote: post #3

Are we trying to emulate China or Iran? Obviously a block like this for any tech-savvy person is absolutely meaningless.

yep! tunnelr?

That's advanced technology! Not needed really:

google: site:thepiratebay.se windows

Cached site from google includes the magnet link.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by drucken »

dafunnie wrote: post #25

Didn't they try to block porn sites last year? David Cameron ostensibly proclaimed that 'porn sites corrupt the British nation' or something in that vein. The UK is beginning to get a tad too draconian for the 21st century.

I think they are still trying.

There is an on-going tabloid newspaper campaign where they are trying to force the ISPs and politicians (especially the opposition) to adopt or commit to an "opt-in" for porn on Internet connections. That is, the default would be required that ISPs take on the cost and legal culpability to block porn.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by zoul »

VMG wrote: post #11
debacle wrote: post #5

Clearly this will stop piracy.

Probably not, but it will make it more difficult for users that aren't tech-savy. (I know that was sarcasm btw)

It will create a market opportunity for people who will make the torrents available even to the users that aren’t tech-savy.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by corin_ »

citricsquid wrote: post #31
MattBearman wrote: post #17

The ruling is mostly full of shit: Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists I'd like to see evidence to back this up, innocent until proven guilty and all. The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale No, it doesn't. TPB doesn't provide any content at all. Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine I…

> No, it doesn't. TPB doesn't provide any content at all. Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine Inch Nails recent releases have been legally made available over bittorrent in 24/96 high quality. And my drug dealer gave $50 to a pregnant woman so that she could get a taxi to the hospital. If you want to argue why this ruling is wrong you should address the iss…

The issue is not with censorship, it's with what they are censoring. Very few people here would take issue with this court order if it was about a site that exclusively hosted child porn. Therefore yes, the context of "is what TBP does illegal?"

To extend your (frankly poor) metaphor, he wouldn't be a drug dealer if all he did was hold up a sign pointing you towards your nearest drug dealers and he never actually gave you any drugs.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by VMG »

driverdan wrote: post #33
VMG wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine Inch Nails recent releases have been legally made available over bittorrent in 24/96 high quality. I don't understand that argument - who ever claimed that TPB only has infringing material? > According to wikipedia, TPB earnings in 2006 were $102,035.05 US, and expenses in 2009 were $112,590.40 US (couldn't find data fo…

> Weird that they don't publish the numbers themselves. I wonder what the reason might be... They're a private company. They're under no obligation to provide the public with their financial data.

> They're a private company

For-Profit?

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