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Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by stbtrax »

sneak wrote: post #148
sureglymop wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you just take the liberty to turn off someone elses devices in someone elses establishment? That's... questionable.

So is forcing me to watch ads. TVs everywhere in public spaces in America is a cancer and I’ll happily turn them off or unplug them whenever and wherever I see them. This isn’t a thing in other countries, it’s part of American culture.

Why would you go in to a restaurant that has TVs if you don't want that? This is borderline sociopathic behavior. You sound like the religious police of Iran imposing your view of what culture is. You should assimilate instead of trying to impose your draconian views on others

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by Gormo »

sev1 wrote: post #261
Gormo wrote: post #252

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Interesting. Do you have any sources that substantiate the claims made on this blog post?

I wasn't aware of a Russia connection until this post. On flipperzero.com near the top it says: >Our team was originally formed in Neuron Hackspace by collaborating with industrial design and manufacturing experts Design Heroes. A quick Google search for Neuron Hackspace and Design Heroes shows their location as Moscow. I'm inclined to believe the detailed report from that blog post and am glad I did not end up buyin…

> I wasn't aware of a Russia connection until this post.

I'm still not aware of it after reading the post. Pointing out that some of the people on the project were members of a hackerspace in Moscow at some point in the past is not remotely sufficient to substantiate that there exists any current connection between the project and Putin's regime.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by sneak »

sureglymop wrote: post #208
sneak wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is forcing me to watch ads. TVs everywhere in public spaces in America is a cancer and I’ll happily turn them off or unplug them whenever and wherever I see them. This isn’t a thing in other countries, it’s part of American culture.

I have a hard time telling whether you are being sarcastic here. It's one thing to block ads when they have been loaded into your web browser that is in your room (completely morally and ethically fine). It's a completely different thing to go into someone elses space and start making decisions about what is or isn't running on a tv there. I like ads as little as you so what I can do is just boycott that restaurant o…

Not being sarcastic (but am indeed questioning if you “like ads as little as [me]”).

Turning off a TV is also morally and ethically fine. I don’t see the big deal. Nothing is happening “forcibly”, I’m just sending out some IR. Nobody’s hurt or damaged.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by 5440 »

My son was just arrested for using this in his hacking club at high school. Be careful if you have kids with one. According to witnesses in the room, he was showing it to kids in his hacking club and they all thought it was just turning off Apple phones in the classrooom. Apparently, it turned off phones including several teachers in adjoining classrooms. Anyways. The police came to the school and arrested him and are threatening him/us with federal crimes. They also executed a search warrant in our house and took all electronics. Its been a little traumatising to say the least.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by sev1 »

Gormo wrote: post #292
sev1 wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wasn't aware of a Russia connection until this post. On flipperzero.com near the top it says: >Our team was originally formed in Neuron Hackspace by collaborating with industrial design and manufacturing experts Design Heroes. A quick Google search for Neuron Hackspace and Design Heroes shows their location as Moscow. I'm inclined to believe the detailed report from that blog post and am glad I did not end up buyin…

> I wasn't aware of a Russia connection until this post. I'm still not aware of it after reading the post. Pointing out that some of the people on the project were members of a hackerspace in Moscow at some point in the past is not remotely sufficient to substantiate that there exists any current connection between the project and Putin's regime.

You refer to the post, but did you read the PDF linked to it? There's a conclusion section that's easy to digest.

As far as a connection to Putin's regime, you should read up the thread and note that nobody here mentioned that. Regardless of their supposed affiliations or lack thereof, I'm not interested in sending money to the Russian economy by purchasing a product from a Russian company. It's that simple. I think others would want to know that same information so thanks to pnw for mentioning it.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by sev1 »

python273 wrote: post #278
pnw wrote: post #233

I would love to get one but articles like this about the Russian connection put me off. https://simovits.com/flipper-zero-zero-trust/

So, they found nothing suspicious with devices or apps. Also made some far fetched connections of Flipper Devices to companies owning the hackspace Pavel Zhovner worked in, and attributed his trolling and making anti-censorship tools "as actively supporting the authorities in Russia". lol.

Paranoia isn't the only factor in a purchasing decision. It seems quite clear to me it's a Russian company trying to hide that fact for obvious reasons. I appreciate pnw posting this and making me aware before I decided to send money (indirectly) to Russia.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by hnav »

EricBetts wrote: post #156
arthurcolle wrote: post #13

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I cloned my apartment key-fob The WeWork key-fob uses rolling codes so couldn't use it for that...

Do you recall any of the details? "Rolling code" is not a term often associated with RFID/NFC. The Portland Custom House WeWork used HID Prox.

Basically the reader writes data back to the fob and expects to see it the next time it reads it. This results in either the original or the copy getting de-synced.

One interesting capability that this unlocks is that battery powered, offline readers (think apartment door that uses the same fob as the lobby) can write out things like battery state so that apartment maintenance knows when it's time to swap out batteries.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by Eji1700 »

lisnake wrote: post #181
Eji1700 wrote: post #101

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The part I don't get is even if you flash the firmware, does that mean you can make sure it doesn't make all other remotes fail? My understanding of the whole rolling code system was that you could get a few uses and then you were screwed. If that's not the case I really need to do this because having it handle my tv's, ceiling fans, and garage door would be a nice trick.

Many rolling door openers don’t use rolling code. Never heard of tvs or ceiling fans using rolling code either

For the record the point was it already handled the fans and tvs fine, but having it store garage codes as well would make it that much more useful

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by python273 »

sev1 wrote: post #297
python273 wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, they found nothing suspicious with devices or apps. Also made some far fetched connections of Flipper Devices to companies owning the hackspace Pavel Zhovner worked in, and attributed his trolling and making anti-censorship tools "as actively supporting the authorities in Russia". lol.

Paranoia isn't the only factor in a purchasing decision. It seems quite clear to me it's a Russian company trying to hide that fact for obvious reasons. I appreciate pnw posting this and making me aware before I decided to send money (indirectly) to Russia.

And how are they "trying to hide" it?

> send money (indirectly) to Russia

Even the report mentions the team members moving to Tbilisi, Georgia. Afaik Pavel moved to Dubai and still has Ukrainian citizenship. So I doubt a significant portion of company's money ending up in Russia, maybe except salaries of a few engineers. But it's pennies compared to how much the regime is paid for the resources, if that's what you worry about.

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