Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
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Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#2I think the Crimson article mentioned in this article has better info about the actual details of the alleged manipulation: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/22/dana-farber-iss...
Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#3I think the Crimson article mentioned in this article has better info about the actual details of the alleged manipulation: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/22/dana-farber-iss...
I do sometimes wonder if the same attributes that puts people at their top of their fields is the same atribute that makes them more willing to sacrifice their integrity for prestige... It seems like this just happens too frequently (or maybe it just appears that way because these are media reported).
Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#4Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#5I think the Crimson article mentioned in this article has better info about the actual details of the alleged manipulation: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/22/dana-farber-iss...
I do sometimes wonder if the same attributes that puts people at their top of their fields is the same atribute that makes them more willing to sacrifice their integrity for prestige... It seems like this just happens too frequently (or maybe it just appears that way because these are media reported).
>wonder if the same attributes that puts people at their top of their fields is the same atribute that makes them more willing to sacrifice their integrity for prestige
I have a HLS lawyerbro that absolutely attests to this theory. "You hear that? That's `pride` fuckin'with'ya."
Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#6I think the Crimson article mentioned in this article has better info about the actual details of the alleged manipulation: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/22/dana-farber-iss...
It's confusing because some of the incidents had image manipulation, but apparently no evidence of deceit. Some others involved data collected at labs not belonging to the four authors accused. But there are six papers being retracted, but no real details in that article on who did what and what exactly happened there.
Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#7I don’t trust anything coming out of academia anymore. First we had over 50% of psychology being nonsense, then sociology (not surprising), then the hard sciences too. But then we also have the rampant ideology problem where you are forbidden from even researching certain topics/questions and if you do, you are blacklisted. They need a hard reckoning. What happened to science? Who cares what the ideological implication is? The truth is the truth.
The icing on the cake is when these frauds retract their papers, NOTHING happens to them. Nothing.
Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#8I think the Crimson article mentioned in this article has better info about the actual details of the alleged manipulation: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/22/dana-farber-iss...
I do sometimes wonder if the same attributes that puts people at their top of their fields is the same atribute that makes them more willing to sacrifice their integrity for prestige... It seems like this just happens too frequently (or maybe it just appears that way because these are media reported).
I'm not sure what direction of causation you have in mind but as someone in academics (tenured professor etc) I think the answer is definitely yes.
One thing that should be setting off alarm bells now is how often these scandals in the last couple of years have involved people who are in very high-level administrative positions at these institutions. Not only because of the values that might be instilled downward in the future, but also what it says about what has been valued already to reach those positions.
I have seen and heard stuff like this routinely that never makes the press. Not everyone in academics is corrupt, but the rot is prevalent enough that it's pretty systemic at this point and affects everyone. I think sometimes people don't even realize what they're suggesting sometimes, it's so common.
I have a theory that as some indicator of success deviates from a normal tail, there's more likely to be corruption or luck involved. The incentives just don't work the other way. But I'm biased based on my experiences, which reflect one domain of modern society.
Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#9I think the Crimson article mentioned in this article has better info about the actual details of the alleged manipulation: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/22/dana-farber-iss...
I do sometimes wonder if the same attributes that puts people at their top of their fields is the same atribute that makes them more willing to sacrifice their integrity for prestige... It seems like this just happens too frequently (or maybe it just appears that way because these are media reported).
Great people usually aren't good people...
Or to put it differently, the unquenched desires of acquisition, rivalry, vanity, and power lead people to do things they oughtn't
Re: Harvard Teaching Hospital Seeks Retraction of 6 Papers by Top Researchers
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do sometimes wonder if the same attributes that puts people at their top of their fields is the same atribute that makes them more willing to sacrifice their integrity for prestige... It seems like this just happens too frequently (or maybe it just appears that way because these are media reported).
Great people usually aren't good people... Or to put it differently, the unquenched desires of acquisition, rivalry, vanity, and power lead people to do things they oughtn't
> Great people usually aren't good people...
The flip side of this is most societies’ model citizens are highly compliant, possibly even supplicant. Entire categories of rudeness are, in essence, about not challenging authority and convention.