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European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by regularfry »

corin_ wrote: post #178
regularfry wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As many as you like, if you don't mind overcommitting the cores. CPUs overcommit quite well - it's when you start overcommitting RAM that you get into trouble.

But surely you'll have a hell of a lot less CPU power than, say, 128 of Linode's 512mb virtual servers, meaning they would have much worse performance if fully used?

If any CPU-overcommitted VM system has guests which all want 100% of the CPU, they'll all suffer. No two ways about that. I don't know what hardware Linode put their 512MB instances on, and I don't know their overcommit ratio. 128 is more guests than I'd put on a 64GB host, though.

If your typical load is actually at 100% CPU for the majority of the time, I'll go out on a limb and suggest that VPS might not be the best bet anyway.

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by kragen »

Hetzner's lowest-end server offering is €39/month, or US$51/month: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/x3. I priced it out on PortaTech, and it looks like the physical hardware costs about US$300: http://www.portatech.com/catalog/viewitem.asp?ID=26840&O... I assume the six-month ratio is about the same for this larger server.

That seems like a pretty awesome deal, if you're doing something where you might need the machine for a few months, but aren't sure you'll still need it six months or a year from now. It sounds like a particularly no-hassle version of leasing a workstation. Except that the workstation comes with a hundred-megabit internet connection, and no monitor.

Unfortunately, it's also 250ms away from me here in Buenos Aires. Neither elserver.com nor servilink.com.ar seems to have anything comparable (and ServiLink's web page seems to be full of broken links and encoding errors, which doesn't inspire confidence; if their web team are such pelotudos de mierda, how likely are they to be able to quickly replace faulty hardware?) so I don't know where to turn.

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by kragen »

ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #150
ashleyw wrote: post #38

Their VPS service looks fantastic also: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserv... Their 2GB plan is 3x cheaper than Linode…and you get over 4x the data transfer! Does anyone know how the performance compares?

Alvotech (also German) offers roughly the same specs for about half the price, after a 10€ setup fee [1]. Although I haven't yet pushed these virtual servers to the limit in any sense, I can say I'm a happy customer. [1] http://www.alvotech.de/vserver/?lang=en

That does look like a very nice service, but it seems to be much lower-end, not "roughly the same". The CPU is an in-order 1.8GHz Atom, which is not roughly the same as a superscalar out-of-order Athlon 64 or Core i7, and their RAM tops out at 4GiB, which is not roughly the same as 64GiB.

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by kragen »

thibaut_barrere wrote: post #9
tdr wrote: post #4

Great hosters! - cheap prices for lots of power - everything "just works" (only contacted for questions) - quick, friendly & to the point support service - great uptime - they are eco - 14 days money back (for root servers) Drawbacks - bigger latency for US/Asia/... - you do your own backups - they bill only after the end of month. had problems when card expired

Did you measure the latency difference by any chance? I am really considering buying one host there, would love to get an idea on this.

250ms to Fibertel in Buenos Aires.

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by Sapient »

tdr wrote: post #13
thibaut_barrere wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you measure the latency difference by any chance? I am really considering buying one host there, would love to get an idea on this.

NY: ~100ms CA: just under 200ms Asia: even +300ms didn't check Southern hemisphere

South Africa, ~210ms

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by Havoc »

Gormo wrote: post #157
irahul wrote: post #119

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I mostly agree with what you say. I was a bit angry because they didn't mention this at the time of signing up. It might be somewhere in the t&c but I think this kind of information should be explicitly told viz. we require your passport and credit card photo to sign you up with our service. I didn't like the callousness with which they request the information. Another commenter mentioned he talked to them and they s…

> a copy of my passport is with my employer, my landlord, custom offices and a bazillion other places It is? Where do you live that this is a normal thing?

Same procedure in South Africa, though generally the local identification document is used not the passport. For example to get a cellphone contract: Proof of residence (utility bill), the ID mentioned above, a bank statement and a payslip.

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by nirvana »

AdamGibbins wrote: post #135
nirvana wrote: post #117

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I think it is a good idea to architect your system under the assumption that once a year, some theif is going to sneak into the data center and make off with an entire server. Just one, but the whole server will then die horribly in a fire after a shoot-out with the police. Lots of things can happen, you should have a higher level of replication such that you can handle a whole server going poof, not just a single bi…

Replication isn't going to help if your data is being silently corrupted, you'll just replicate the corruption.

ECC Does nothing to prevent your server from dying in a fire after that police chase, either. However, replication is an effective solution to the problem you describe:

Whenever data is read, you read from more than one replica, and then compare them. If one of them has been corrupted, its hash won't match and you'll know it. You can then write out the correct data to the node with the error. This is very easy in systems like Riak.

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by dow »

iSnow wrote: post #175
dow wrote: post #168

Can anyone provide an IP of a box hosted with Hetzner? I want to measure the latency when connecting from Middle East. That's one of things I worry about. Linode seems to have the best peering with the region from all the providers I've checked. Thanks!

78.46.92.242 This is an oldish dual-core AMD box with 2GB RAM and low load.

Thanks, iSnow.

It looks good, lower latency than US East or Singapore, little bit higher than London or Ireland.

The only thing that worries me are the fluctuations between pings:

164.622 ms 164.725 ms 166.828 ms 228.693 ms 234.214 ms

.. and it goes like this forever - bouncing between 164 and 230.

Linode and AWS are very constant between pings.

Is this something to be worried about?

Thank you

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