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The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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> whose research interests arguably make her one of the most qualified people to write about Čapek’s perspective on robots. “The chemical robots in the form of microparticles that we designed and investigated, and that had properties similar to living cells, were much closer to Čapek’s original ideas than any other robots today,” Čejková explains in the book’s introduction This doesn't sound right at all. The play's…

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Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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When asking Google - what the etymology of the "robot" word is, the answer is from Czech word "robota" which is they translate as "forced labor". While I don't speak Czech, I speak Polish which is a close cousin. For years it didn't occur to me that "robot" and the shortened "bot" words have slavic etymology. In Polish "robić" means to do (carry out, perform etc.) something. "Robię kawę" means "I'm making a coffee" a…

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Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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Another irony is Capek did not really liked R.U.R. He was great author and journalist, read his War with the Newts (1936). RUR was his early theater game, it is a bit silly and has big plot holes.. Yet somehow it is his most known work.

War with the Newts is wonderful, though The Absolute at Large is also worth of attention :)

Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Russian, работа simply means "work" or "job" without any negative connotation.

Russian isn't Czech and there are a lot of false cognates between the two.

These aren't false cognates though, they're actual cognates. Cognates can have different meanings. You might be thinking of 'false friends'.

Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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I think it has been generally accepted that Josef Capek (Karel's brother) was actually the one who coined the word "robot". Karel Capek wanted to call them "labors" originally.

He could take solace in the fact that the Japanese later picked up on it: https://patlabor.fandom.com/wiki/Labor ;)

Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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dang, can we change the title back to the original. This article is about "the man who the word robot" not "a man who coined the word robot". I know that often "the man" is used for clickbait purposes. Here it is just being accurate and to the point. The title being used now suggests that many people have coined the word robot which is untrue.

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Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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His robot was hijacked to mean a mechanical man with gears and wires inside and he objected to that. I'm thinking of course that the public only had experience with these things — or perhaps this was another fear of the time, the mechanization of jobs, and so the robot became the perfect avatar for this fear and so evolved. But surely the idea of a mechanical man predates the term, robot. Automatons? Or is the distin…

> But surely the idea of a mechanical man predates the term, robot. Automatons?

Greek myth has Hephaestus (Vulcan to the Romans) making a bunch of robots. Talos was a giant humanoid guardian of Crete made of bronze. I can't remember the names of his forge workers, but there were two of them and they worked with him pumping bellows and hammering metal.

Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm Czech and while those two languages are close, "robota" is really forced work in Czech. What you called "robota" in Polish is called "práce" in Czech. In Czech, "Robota" is forced work and has bad connotations. See https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robota . It's interesting that this page doesn't have Polish translation.

In the region where I was growing up next to Poland, we say "chodit do roboty" when describing normal work.

Reminds of the Russian "chodit na rabotu".

Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russian isn't Czech and there are a lot of false cognates between the two.

These aren't false cognates though, they're actual cognates. Cognates can have different meanings. You might be thinking of 'false friends'.

My absolute favorite false cognate is 'arraigned' (English) vs. 'araignée' (French).

Arraignments would be far more nervewracking if they significantly involved spiders.

Re: The man who coined the word "robot" defends himself

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When asking Google - what the etymology of the "robot" word is, the answer is from Czech word "robota" which is they translate as "forced labor". While I don't speak Czech, I speak Polish which is a close cousin. For years it didn't occur to me that "robot" and the shortened "bot" words have slavic etymology. In Polish "robić" means to do (carry out, perform etc.) something. "Robię kawę" means "I'm making a coffee" a…

In Bulgaria, we use "работа" (rabota) but eventually adopted "robotya" as a slang for working hard as a robot.

Man, I really should travel more around Europe. COVID ruined my last planned vacation and I've stayed at home since then.

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