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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by rdtsc »

The "stop touching her" part was interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65iwnI2hjAA&t=791s

One member of the group of waving the Chinese flag in Brendan's direction. He seems to have touched the flag or put his hand forward to touch the flag. The man with the group starting yelling very loudly "stop touching her". But it wasn't a desperate cry for help, it was very deliberate and forced in a way. He realized all of the sudden he could get Brendan in trouble.

The other members in the group were happily smiling in the background, obviously not bothered by this horrible "touch assault". When police came, the Chinese man immediately ran towards the police to be the first to tell his story.

So there seems to be some awareness that "touching" is not allowed here, but I think with a bit practice they might find out about Streisand effect and filming in public too

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by jacknews »

neom wrote: post #7
jacknews wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it's a kindness. The title otherwise would be 'patriotic Chinese people threaten' ...

They didn't threaten him at all? They (wrongfully) asked him forcefully to stop filming.

true, they didn't say 'stop filming or we'll break your legs', but it was nonetheless attempt to intimidate.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by em-bee »

ilamont wrote: post #3

I once read that France has some sort of law about photographing people who don’t want to be included in a picture in a public place. Does the UK have something similar, or is this a “little wolf warrior” misunderstanding what he can demand or do abroad?

in germany this applies only to people who are subject of the recording. as in this case the subject of the recording was the piano players, and other people were just background, the right does not apply. if they didn't want to be filmed they should have walked away.

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Post by andsoitis »

It looks like the individuals were trolling him ("don't share video online that shows us in the picture...") or just trying to pick a fight.

Unfortunately, these days you have to assume that someone is taking video or photos in public space and it might mean you end up online without your permission. In very rare cases such a video might go viral which then can draw attention to yourself.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by x3n0ph3n3 »

rdtsc wrote: post #11

The "stop touching her" part was interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65iwnI2hjAA&t=791s One member of the group of waving the Chinese flag in Brendan's direction. He seems to have touched the flag or put his hand forward to touch the flag. The man with the group starting yelling very loudly "stop touching her". But it wasn't a desperate cry for help, it was very deliberate and forced in a way. He realized all…

It was even more interesting how the guy who yelled it felt important to call out the difference in their ages.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by maeln »

ilamont wrote: post #3

I once read that France has some sort of law about photographing people who don’t want to be included in a picture in a public place. Does the UK have something similar, or is this a “little wolf warrior” misunderstanding what he can demand or do abroad?

> I once read that France has some sort of law about photographing people who don’t want to be included in a picture in a public place.

For more details, it is not about photographing people (it is perfectly legal in public places) but publishing (in any form, press or social media) the picture. The law apply if you single out a person or a group of person (so if someone is in the background and not the main focus of the picture/video, the law doesn't apply) and if a prejudice of any form can be attributed to the picture.

This video would actually be an interesting case (if it was in France), because one could argue that the people asking not to be in the video where not the main focus and therefor would not be protected by law. But at the same time, the way it was published put a strong emphasis on the fact that they asked not to be in the video, therefore making them the main focus of the video, even though it is of their own volition.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by gruez »

jacknews wrote: post #10
gruez wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that's any better. Imagine assuming every american is CIA, or every russian is FSB.

that doesn't follow. they are waving PRC flags, therefore they are 'patriotic'. but maybe not members of the CCP, as the poster pointed out.

>they are waving PRC flags, therefore they are 'patriotic'.

>but maybe not members of the CCP, as the poster pointed out.

I'm not claiming that because they're patriotic that they're CCP members. In fact if you read my comment more carefully I'm claiming the opposite, by pointing out how absurd it is to assume a patriotic American to be a CIA agent. I'm not sure how doing so is "kindness".

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by foverzar »

So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women.

"CCP members threaten British public piano player", right.

I get that some countries still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-professional vlogger understands.

Just don't be evil.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by wuxb »

ilamont wrote: post #3

I once read that France has some sort of law about photographing people who don’t want to be included in a picture in a public place. Does the UK have something similar, or is this a “little wolf warrior” misunderstanding what he can demand or do abroad?

If I peed in my pant (or in a similar awkward situation) and someone happened to have filmed it. What kind of legal rights (if any) do I have to remove my shameful moment from the Internet?

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by klik99 »

cassianoleal wrote: post #5

The title of the video is "Police Called To Stop Filming During Piano Livestream". There are no indications that the people who (very wrongfully) approached them are members of the CCP. They may well be but there's nothing in the video supporting that.

Yeah this bugs me - the police offer says "you can't just call them communists" and he says "I just said they're holding a communist flag, is that wrong?" and then uploads the video saying it's CCP. If this had been a British person who didn't want to be filmed would this video been making quite the stir? It just feels like he's milking it.
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