The cloud is just a crappier version of a datacenter built around the notion that you can make users captive to your services and make them pay hardware for 3 times its price.
It does not lead to better source versioning systems.
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
So multiple people did a git reset --hard origin/master and nobody complained or checked what and why this was done? That's not "one data scientist with the wrong command" but the whole team that fucked up hard IMHO.
> but the whole team that fucked up hard IMHO. Multiple individuals with similar problems would tend to imply systematic inadequate training. Or the enterprise concerned adopting an inappropriately complex system for its intended userbase.
Or, git is both very complex and very useful, and a large portion of its users have a poor understanding of git but enough for it to be a useful tool. If you want to do source control (which you do), then you’re investing time into learning git and/or fixing git, or maybe using a project like this.
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#123how is that different than Dropbox version history?
Branches is one example! But really Dropbox is not a VCS.
Although some game studios do use Dropbox/Google Drive for versioning graphical assets - but not because it's a good tool for the purpose, they just don't have a better one.
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#124It's about time someone revisited & reimagined version control. the previous generations each lasted about 15 years: SCCS/RCS -> CVS -> Bitbucket/git/mercurial -> ??? so I am glad to see this. I would start by talking about what is great about Diversion -- what it lets you do that you couldn't before. Since you mention gaming and perforce I looked in vain to see if it supports binaries (a major limitation of git -- j…
> And why cloud native?
And what even is cloud native? When "cloud native" isn't just marketing, it seems to have all sorts of different meanings.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
--force always imply data loss. You're overriding the remote state. Do people use it in an unsafe manner because they don't understand git and there lies a problem that could be tackled? yes. With that, I don't think git has any feature that is unsafe by default.
My biggest problem with git is branch deletion — if you never do it you end up with far too many, but deleting a branch can’t be version controlled.
Just curious, why do you want that to be version controlled?
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#126Git cli UX made be not great, but the git datastructure of representing commits, branches, trees and blobs as immutable pointers and merkle trees is a phenomenal invention.
I don't agree with every command needs to hit some REST api. That seems like throwing the baby away with bathwater.
The most powerful thing about git is that I can work fully offline with a partial clone. And sync the commits when I get online.
Git got popular because of it's distributed nature.
I remember when our svn server used to hang and the entire team was blocked from even making a commit.
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#127how is that different than Dropbox version history?
Plus, for a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.
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#128It's about time someone revisited & reimagined version control. the previous generations each lasted about 15 years: SCCS/RCS -> CVS -> Bitbucket/git/mercurial -> ??? so I am glad to see this. I would start by talking about what is great about Diversion -- what it lets you do that you couldn't before. Since you mention gaming and perforce I looked in vain to see if it supports binaries (a major limitation of git -- j…
> And why cloud native? And what even is cloud native? When "cloud native" isn't just marketing, it seems to have all sorts of different meanings.
We're using S3 storage, lambda and ECS compute, and serverless DBs. It allows us to build a scalable product much faster, and leverages cloud features like multizone backups and distribution without having to develop these ourself.
It also allows fast transfer of data between Diversion and other cloud systems.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
So multiple people did a git reset --hard origin/master and nobody complained or checked what and why this was done? That's not "one data scientist with the wrong command" but the whole team that fucked up hard IMHO.
I think you just sold their pitch with this comment... I, like many many people here, have done quite a bit of product design. What do you call it when a bunch of people use your product, and it breaks for several of them? That generally indicates your product is weak, or has a very rough UI.
The pitch simply wasn’t true. Data was not destroyed and was restored hours later.
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#130Taking a decentralized application like Git back to centralization is a step in the wrong direction, it's exactly why Git was created.