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I was thinking the same. It's a proven predatory and reckless company that can sell at these prices because of shady practices. But hey, savings!
I'm not ver familiar with Temu. Are these shady practices documented somewhere, and are they worse than industry peers (aliexpress, wish, overseas ebay, etc)?
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
no phone can act as a nfc card. your set up doesn't cover the main use case for the flipper on nfc space
Many (most recent) smartphone models can act as NFC cards very well, with the right software.
Phones unfortunately disallow setting the NFC UID on the hardware level (it's random each time), Flipper allows you to do anything.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was thinking the same. It's a proven predatory and reckless company that can sell at these prices because of shady practices. But hey, savings!
I'm not ver familiar with Temu. Are these shady practices documented somewhere, and are they worse than industry peers (aliexpress, wish, overseas ebay, etc)?
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#194I got one not too long after the official launch and I've used it a decent amount (granted I am in cybersecurity and have a more real-world use cases then the average person). My favorite use case is the IR remote since phones no longer have IR blasters. It's saved me twice so far in having to buy/find a remote for something. One thing people don't realize is that the custom firmware [0] that you can run allows you t…
>> or somewhat expensive and complex SDR
I don’t think that’s as accurate today as it used to be.
On the hardware side there are tons of options very cheaply available - iirc the flipper uses the c1100 (or a number like that) it’s a popular cheap chip and it’s well documented and interfaces easily with arduino.
More accessibly, lime mini SDRs are cheap but there’s quite a few alternatives too.
On the software side GNU Radio is free with decent tutorials - we’re not talking anything like blender levels of difficulty to adopt even if it is a complex domain.
Although on the more accessible side, urh is incredibly powerful given how easy to use it is https://github.com/jopohl/urh
I used the latter to tap into a 2 channel wireless bbq thermometer via a $10 rtl sdr and that was a breeze, an absolute walk in the park compared to when I reverse engineered the flysky telemetry system.
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#195$169 is a bit steep for me, so I went on Temu and bought a $8 125KHz RFID programmer & a $5 USB-C IR Blaster. Combined with my Samsung phones native NFC writing, bluetooth, etc I feel like it scratched the itch of 90% of what people do with Flipper for 10% the cost.
> so I went on Temu and bought a $8 125KHz RFID programmer
OT but if you found it for $8 on Temu, then you can most likely find the exact same device on Aliexpress for $1 - $2. Don't feed Temu - their ads are clogging up my feeds :)
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#196I really resent the marketing of this product. It's as if they invented the cheap RF chips they're using and are the exclusive distributors of it. It's rubbed me as thoroughly dishonest and fraudulent. I know this is currently a minority position, that's why I took the time to state it.
>Flipper was inspired by the pwnagotchi project, but unlike other DIY boards, Flipper is designed with the convenience of everyday usage in mind Front page, nothing about their copy or their website says what you think it says.
You know they've released a lot more than a landing page, right? They were initially a kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flipper-devices/flipper...
They created a fast-food substitution product and have been trying to pass it off as the real thing. It's a hardware script kiddie device and that's exactly how their videos depict it.
I was always turned off by their approach since first seeing it in 2019. I've played with the device, get their facebook ads all the time, tried to change my mind about it but 5 years later I keep coming back to the same animosity towards it.
These are all easy to teach things and this thing shrouds that fact through product alienation intentionally distancing the user from any real hacker education and replacing it with animations and theatrics.
I'm cool being dismissed as a crank. They're obviously successful millionaires and I'm not.
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#197I got one not too long after the official launch and I've used it a decent amount (granted I am in cybersecurity and have a more real-world use cases then the average person). My favorite use case is the IR remote since phones no longer have IR blasters. It's saved me twice so far in having to buy/find a remote for something. One thing people don't realize is that the custom firmware [0] that you can run allows you t…
> phones no longer have IR blasters Plently of phones still do [0]. I've configured mine to operate all my devices at home. [0] https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2023&chkInfra...
In other words, Chinese brands still have IR blasters. I don't know I would trust Chinese-brand of phones though.
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#198This is a super fun gizmo, it's discord channel is, uh, not great. One cool thing is that you can talk to it serially. I pretty quickly had it organized with an IoT temperature sensor so that it could send commands to my ceiling fan given the temperature in my office. I have also used it to capture the NFC code on a hotel card key so that I could still get into my room even after my key was inevitably "damaged" by ne…
The dolphin game is to allow them to avoid some import/export restrictions by classifying it as a toy, which it is, and not a hacking tool. It’s not a professional device.
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#199Recent news discussions: Flipper Zero can be used to crash iPhones running iOS 17 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37919396 Apple Shuts Down Flipper Zero's Ability to Shut Down iPhones https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38656607 Flipper Zero banned by Amazon for being a ‘card skimming device’ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35481580 UK airport confiscates passenger's Flipper Zero https://news.ycombinator.c…
The last one is hilarious, just endless speculation on how the guy could have handled it better, the guy coming in with the account of how he handled thing pretty nicely, and then just crickets.
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#200Mj