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Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by Eji1700 »

ec109685 wrote: post #115
Eji1700 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The part I don't get is even if you flash the firmware, does that mean you can make sure it doesn't make all other remotes fail? My understanding of the whole rolling code system was that you could get a few uses and then you were screwed. If that's not the case I really need to do this because having it handle my tv's, ceiling fans, and garage door would be a nice trick.

If you have control of the opener, couldn’t you use the door’s learning mode and make it into a real opener?

I thought so at first by my initial reading left me somewhat confused on if there's a private key that only certain remotes have or something like that?

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by peblos »

xyst wrote: post #126
roughly wrote: post #2

I’ve had one of these guys sitting around for a while - love the hardware, love the concept, but I haven’t really found a lot of use for it - what are y’all using them for?

Scanned a pet microchip lol. I had planned to build out my own kit but not enough time

Interesting! What kind of animal? Everything I had read suggested it wasn’t strong enough to read these and I couldn’t read my small dog’s chip

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by DHowett »

dzink wrote: post #120

The initial marketing mentioned that flippers can exchange collected data as a social interaction. The reason I haven’t bought it is that I don’t want private stuff used and home being leaked to flippers nearby or to a central server. Any experience with that?

As of firmware version 0.97.1 (current at the time of this comment,) no such feature exists.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by blep-arsh »

byb wrote: post #158

I tried using a Flipper with some NFC stickers so I wouldn't have to carry around so many FOBs and cards. It turns out that the Flipper does not excel at this task. It complained that the NFC stickers I bought were non-writable. And it couldn't read all the sectors on some NFC tags. However, I was able to use the Android MCT app to write to the same stickers and read the tags the flipper couldn't read. Cloning requir…

Yeah, Flipper as a concept sounds cool but then I found out the current implementation is rather half-baked and comes with a lot of limitations. And the community is not that welcoming either.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by jjav »

peblos wrote: post #162
xyst wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scanned a pet microchip lol. I had planned to build out my own kit but not enough time

Interesting! What kind of animal? Everything I had read suggested it wasn’t strong enough to read these and I couldn’t read my small dog’s chip

I've succesfully read a few pet microchips with it.

Of course, it wasn't useful to do, but hey it worked!

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by camillomiller »

michaelteter wrote: post #152
geor9e wrote: post #46

$169 is a bit steep for me, so I went on Temu and bought a $8 125KHz RFID programmer & a $5 USB-C IR Blaster. Combined with my Samsung phones native NFC writing, bluetooth, etc I feel like it scratched the itch of 90% of what people do with Flipper for 10% the cost.

> I went on Temu and bought Too bad. I was sincerely hoping nobody would buy anything from them so they would die.

I was thinking the same. It's a proven predatory and reckless company that can sell at these prices because of shady practices. But hey, savings!

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by stavros »

tkems wrote: post #89
geor9e wrote: post #46

$169 is a bit steep for me, so I went on Temu and bought a $8 125KHz RFID programmer & a $5 USB-C IR Blaster. Combined with my Samsung phones native NFC writing, bluetooth, etc I feel like it scratched the itch of 90% of what people do with Flipper for 10% the cost.

If you want to go deeper with RFID and can spend a bit more (~$50), I am pretty happy with my knockoff Proxmark3 Easy [0] I got on ebay. (Do some research to find a good seller as I have heard some sellers ship bad units). It can do both 125khz and 13.25Mhz RFID/NFC and is easier to use then some of the Android apps for cracking Mifare keys. For the price, it is great for more complex attacks and almost has all the f…

Do you have any resources for learning about RFID? I have some tokens for opening my garage door that I'd like to clone, and I'd like to know how they work.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by camillomiller »

geor9e wrote: post #76
ramraj07 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“1200 seems too high for a phone, so I bought a raspberry Pi and attached a 4G module now I can make calls and browse the internet”…

iPhones aren't sitting unused in a drawer forgotten like 99% of Flippers. There's nothing differentiating or polished about clicking one button versus clicking a different button to clone an RFID tag. I'd rather have cheapo version of 1 time use gizmos.

Design is way more important than just what things look like. But it contributes to a product's success in ways that are sometimes hard to measure. That's why engineer-driven company don't understand it and engineers (as a sweeping generalization) usually hate it.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by stavros »

rvnx wrote: post #155
ramraj07 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the appeal of Flipper Zero is the mythical rare day when it becomes useful in an emergency, and until then it can stay in my draw peacefully.

There is another possibility: that the Flipper gets an update with the order of a government. For example, to reprogram or shutdown electrical systems in the house. And then it will be a day to remember :D

Or, an equally plausible scenario, it grows its own consciousness and decide to attack, hiding behind its delightful dolphin facade.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by 29athrowaway »

HanClinto wrote: post #42
29athrowaway wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of garage opener do you have? I thought the Flipper zero won't provide that functionality unless you flash the firmware.

Not terribly difficult to flash the firmware.

But now you have to trust some random person from GitHub.
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