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Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Yeah, I had the same thought. $169?! I get that it's specialty geekware, but with enough popularity that I would have guessed the price would be in line with the Arduino. Like, $50?

$169 implies a BOM cost of about $60. That seems ... about right actually?

What fills out that $60 BOM? Obviously the stylish case isn't cheap, but I'm wondering what else makes it expensive.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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$169 is a bit steep for me, so I went on Temu and bought a $8 125KHz RFID programmer & a $5 USB-C IR Blaster. Combined with my Samsung phones native NFC writing, bluetooth, etc I feel like it scratched the itch of 90% of what people do with Flipper for 10% the cost.

“1200 seems too high for a phone, so I bought a raspberry Pi and attached a 4G module now I can make calls and browse the internet”…

I would love love love this to become a vibe.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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The point of the flipper zero is to have one good supported gadget that has a lot of people hacking away with it. It's the same thing with the raspberry pi, sure you can get some cheap clone off less than ideal places, but you're gonna pay with your time. That's basically it.

That's what I like about InstantPots: having a standardized cooking device makes recipes a lot easier to share.

Well sure, for pressure and slow cooking. You could say the same thing about the microwave.

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What kind of garage opener do you have? I thought the Flipper zero won't provide that functionality unless you flash the firmware.

The part I don't get is even if you flash the firmware, does that mean you can make sure it doesn't make all other remotes fail? My understanding of the whole rolling code system was that you could get a few uses and then you were screwed. If that's not the case I really need to do this because having it handle my tv's, ceiling fans, and garage door would be a nice trick.

If you have control of the opener, couldn’t you use the door’s learning mode and make it into a real opener?

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the whole point of the flipper is the sub-1ghz radio and nfc/rfid capabilities. It's not really intended to be used as a general purpose computer, it's more like a really extensible radio

Yeah, but for me (and I imagine a lot of people on here) the itch that Flipper Zero teases is that of a hackable computer in a neat form factor, not the specific radio capabilities that it's actually meant for. I didn't know about M5 before and now I'm hooked exploring M5's store, so I appreciate OP's pointing me there!

I think there are a lot of better options if that's what you want. From what I've seen the appeal of the Flipper is that you can do a bunch of fun stuff with a super easy to use interface (just select the thing you want to do and press go!) It's like the iPod of radio/rfid hacking.

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All garage doors have rolling keys which are non trivial to deal with unless you have pro stuff.

Speaking of garage door rolling codes I've noticed there is some sort of slack in the synchronization, probably so that if you press the remote button a few times while out of range your remote still opens the door. My guess is that the receiver looks not only for next code after the last one used, but also for several codes after that. Question: how many times would you have to press the button on the remote for it…

There’s a great answer here that describes a rolling code attack and above it, an answer describing that they have slack regarding where they are in the code sequence.

https://crypto.stackexchange.com/a/47440

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Yeah, but for me (and I imagine a lot of people on here) the itch that Flipper Zero teases is that of a hackable computer in a neat form factor, not the specific radio capabilities that it's actually meant for. I didn't know about M5 before and now I'm hooked exploring M5's store, so I appreciate OP's pointing me there!

I think there are a lot of better options if that's what you want. From what I've seen the appeal of the Flipper is that you can do a bunch of fun stuff with a super easy to use interface (just select the thing you want to do and press go!) It's like the iPod of radio/rfid hacking.

Yeah, for sure—I looked at the Flipper when it first came out and decided it was overkill for me.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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I’ve had one of these guys sitting around for a while - love the hardware, love the concept, but I haven’t really found a lot of use for it - what are y’all using them for?

Mine is just a cool-looking paperweight now.

how much paper can it hold down?

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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The initial marketing mentioned that flippers can exchange collected data as a social interaction. The reason I haven’t bought it is that I don’t want private stuff used and home being leaked to flippers nearby or to a central server. Any experience with that?
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