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Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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I have a question for anyone in an R&D/Bell Labs-esque place - are there any good recommendations for similar places to work, particularly outside the US? "Old" Google apparently was, but going by what ex-googlers have been saying it hasn't been the case for a long while now.

What are you looking for? DOE national labs and similar institutions may fit the bill.

Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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I have a question for anyone in an R&D/Bell Labs-esque place - are there any good recommendations for similar places to work, particularly outside the US? "Old" Google apparently was, but going by what ex-googlers have been saying it hasn't been the case for a long while now.

A government, or government funded, research lab. Mostly they want research scientists, but engineers also work in those places.

Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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The new home is still NJ: New Brunswick. > When Nokia’s research arm, Nokia Bell Labs, said in early December the company will move out of the Murray Hill campus over the next five years to relocate to a new tech hub being built in New Brunswick, the announcement spurred an outpouring of memories online from current and former employees. > Bell Labs’ new headquarters will be located at the HELIX innovation center in…

I agree that investment in the city of New Brunswick seems like a great idea for the reasons you stated. At the same time, it just feels so grand and historic to walk the same halls as the likes of Shannon, and it's a bit sad that I may not be able to see it again. (I've only visited a handful of times to work on some joint projects though). Hopefully the new lab space/equipment will be very modern and efficient thou…

While I’m not saying Shannon never walked the halls of Murray Hill, his publishing A Mathematical Theory of Communication in 1948 meant that he was working at the lab’s previous location in the West Village…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Laboratories_Building

Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some that's a plus!

For me a negative: If I remember correctly, MSR worked on a practical implementation of Code-Contracts for C# which incorporated the (all-important) compile-time verification of method preconditions, postconditions, and class invariants (without the need for hand-written refinement-types, which is how we do things today): as I understand it, the compile-time part of system could support any assertion represented as a…

Isn't that replacement called F#?

Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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post #63

I couldn't read past this photo caption:- "In 1969, Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson developed UNIX, a computer programming language. Nokia" :-|

Credit for the picture provided goes to Nokia; Nokia doesn't get credit for anything else :)

Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me a negative: If I remember correctly, MSR worked on a practical implementation of Code-Contracts for C# which incorporated the (all-important) compile-time verification of method preconditions, postconditions, and class invariants (without the need for hand-written refinement-types, which is how we do things today): as I understand it, the compile-time part of system could support any assertion represented as a…

Isn't that replacement called F#?

No.

Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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post #37

I have walked those halls and let me tell you it feels spooky in a good way to know a lot of groundbreaking work was done there. During the time I was on campus it was mostly empty. There were old computers still inside some rooms. I felt like I had been transported to the 80s or 90s in one hall and some halls even more decades in the past. Really grand. I can’t imagine what it was like in its heyday.

I’m not a nostalgic person, but for some reason I wish irrationally that that Murray Hill building could be preserved as is. I read so much about of it in the history of computing, and just like (from the pictures) the building interior itself so much I just feel like I missed out on some thing not to have been there myself. I was lucky enough to work at Microsoft in building 2, one of 8 matching buildings from the m…

The whole complex (immortalized as Lumon HQ in Severance) is landmarked so presumably it can’t be messed with too much. Even apart from the historical significance, it’s a masterpiece of mid-century design. Its architect, Eero Saarinen, also did the St. Louis Arch and, my personal favorite, the TWA terminal at JFK, which reopened as a hotel in 2019. If you’re ever stuck on a layover there, do check it out!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Hotel

Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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post #63

I couldn't read past this photo caption:- "In 1969, Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson developed UNIX, a computer programming language. Nokia" :-|

Credit for the picture provided goes to Nokia; Nokia doesn't get credit for anything else :)

> UNIX, a computer programming language

:p

Re: Remembering Bell Labs as legendary idea factory prepares to leave N.J. home

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post #9

The new home is still NJ: New Brunswick. > When Nokia’s research arm, Nokia Bell Labs, said in early December the company will move out of the Murray Hill campus over the next five years to relocate to a new tech hub being built in New Brunswick, the announcement spurred an outpouring of memories online from current and former employees. > Bell Labs’ new headquarters will be located at the HELIX innovation center in…

I agree that investment in the city of New Brunswick seems like a great idea for the reasons you stated. At the same time, it just feels so grand and historic to walk the same halls as the likes of Shannon, and it's a bit sad that I may not be able to see it again. (I've only visited a handful of times to work on some joint projects though). Hopefully the new lab space/equipment will be very modern and efficient thou…

But "These chairs haven't been cleaned since Shannon worked here!"
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