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Re: The Startup Resume

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post #18

Am I correct in interpreting this post as saying that generalists don't get hired at startups, and that you should optimize your resume to look like a specialist? That seems pretty counter-intuitive, since at an early stage startup, employees end up wearing many hats.

Generalist programmers get hired all the time at startups; as someone else mentioned, requirements are always changing and it often doesn't make sense to specialize immediately. At Justin.tv, we hired a ton of generalists before we ever hired any specialists. What I meant in the post was that if you are going to be programming then you need to demonstrate that you are a good programmer, hopefully with some specific a…

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Re: The Startup Resume

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post #18

Am I correct in interpreting this post as saying that generalists don't get hired at startups, and that you should optimize your resume to look like a specialist? That seems pretty counter-intuitive, since at an early stage startup, employees end up wearing many hats.

Generalist programmers get hired all the time at startups; as someone else mentioned, requirements are always changing and it often doesn't make sense to specialize immediately. At Justin.tv, we hired a ton of generalists before we ever hired any specialists. What I meant in the post was that if you are going to be programming then you need to demonstrate that you are a good programmer, hopefully with some specific a…

I read your post and this comment as arguing for resumes to focus on achievements ("this awesome thing is my fault") rather than tasks ("I did thing X as a means to an end while in role Y"). Is that a fair summary?

If so, I think you're off the mark a bit when you say this applies only to startups; I think this applies when you are applying to specific roles at a company, regardless of the company's size. I don't work at a startup at all, but resumes with lists of papers with no direct relevance where the candidate is one of 10 co-authors, academic honors, TA positions that are irrelevant to the job at hand, lots of description about a former team's job rather than what the candidate did, etc. make my brain glaze over. I have to spend more time looking for the core nuggets of achievement buried within, and that's generally not time I have. It's not necessarily a killer for someone's interview process, but it's certainly not fun and drains my time.

Meanwhile, people I encounter outside of the normal resume-submission process who simply point out something really cool they've done? If it's something really awesome, they get recruited, no real resume required.

Re: The Startup Resume

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Your cover letter (i.e. email) is far more important. Four short (1-2 sentences) paragraphs:

  1. why you are choosing *them*
  2. your basic competence for the job
  3. what special talent you bring, that makes you outstanding
  4. why you'll get along with them, be a good fit socially

Re: The Startup Resume

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As the CTO hiring my first developers, I'm looking for people who will integrate with my company and my tech stack with the least amount of friction possible. This means that (a) you're a full-stack RoR/JS programmer, (b) you're smart as hell, and (c) you're not annoying.

The only thing that's really going to come through on a resume is (a), and I might be able to glean some of (b) and (c) from your cover-letter. It's rare enough to see full-stack RoR programmers on the job hunt though, so (a) alone is enough to get a call from me. Your resume almost doesn't matter, as long as it doesn't violate (c).

For me at least, just put together a generic resume and write a frank, friendly email/cover-letter. Even though I'll probably call you regardless of the cover-letter, a good one may give me enough confidence to skip right to on on-site (or coffee).

Re: The Startup Resume

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What happens to the resumes that don't make the cut? I know that I'm always in search of some great additions to our team and while the resumes might not be a fit for you, they might be a great fit for me, and YCombinator is an amazing magnet / funnel that attracts a relatively higher quality of candidate, regardless of whether or not they made the cut. Around these parts, it's hard to convince tech talent to join a startup at all, their skills notwithstanding.

I know that resumes are probably shared with a reasonable expectation of privacy, but perhaps you can let it be known that there are other, non-YC startups that might be interested in these resources if you would be willing to share and float a few other boats with those that weren't a good fit.

Just a thought.

Re: The Startup Resume

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post #17

Am I correct in interpreting this post as saying that generalists don't get hired at startups, and that you should optimize your resume to look like a specialist? That seems pretty counter-intuitive, since at an early stage startup, employees end up wearing many hats.

I spend quite a bit of time reviewing resumes, interviewing and hiring engineers, and I am not looking for specialists. If a candidate has an in depth knowledge of a particular subject, that is awesome, but completely optional. The requirements are: Strong problem solving ability, a love for writing high quality code, and the ability to learn fast and work independently. One thing I do agree with in the original post…

OK. Problem #1 "Your solution should be in Javascript and CSS"

Smart people don't play monkey games. If you want a monkey at the very least be honest about it. If you want a rockstar you better have a damn good reason for them to come to your company rather than just start their own. Playing monkey games to see if your possible new team rockstar is good at reading minds through osmosis is the first reason they won't even look at you. Better stick to brogrammers, however I doubt you even see many of them.

Re: The Startup Resume

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post #7

This is the resume that has gotten me at least a call-back from every startup I have ever sent it to: [paraphrased since I type the email every time anew] Hi, I'm a coder from Slovenia. I like writing JavaScript and Python. I'm learning Haskell. Here is my github: http://github.com/Swizec I have a blog at http://swizec.com Most recently I did cool thing X Cheers, ~Swizec

Has it worked? Which startup are you with now? I see from your blog you are interviewing with Google (not a startup anymore), but still not bad. Are you still open to finding the right fit with a startup? Are you "startup friendly" (appropriate expectations of work hours, pay, and equity)? I find the latter to be the biggest hangup in folks that we're looking to add to our team. They like the tech challenge, but can't really grok the startup work environment.

Re: The Startup Resume

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The principle applies elsewhere, too. He's right - tailor your resume. Also, make sure what you rock at is big and clear and up-front and featured. Because you hope your resume is being read by somebody who doesn't just read resumes all day. Then put keyword soup at the bottom for recruiters, if you need to.

I've been reading Land the Tech Job You Love [1] recently, and he says the same thing about putting "keyword soup" at the bottom. But he also recommends naming the section something like "Buzzwords" so that human readers know to skip that section. "Oh, this is obviously to satisfy the automated resume screeners." I'm not so keen on the idea, but probably because I usually apply to companies that are too small to use the automated resume screeners.

[1] http://pragprog.com/book/algh/land-the-tech-job-you-love

Re: The Startup Resume

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spend quite a bit of time reviewing resumes, interviewing and hiring engineers, and I am not looking for specialists. If a candidate has an in depth knowledge of a particular subject, that is awesome, but completely optional. The requirements are: Strong problem solving ability, a love for writing high quality code, and the ability to learn fast and work independently. One thing I do agree with in the original post…

OK. Problem #1 "Your solution should be in Javascript and CSS" Smart people don't play monkey games. If you want a monkey at the very least be honest about it. If you want a rockstar you better have a damn good reason for them to come to your company rather than just start their own. Playing monkey games to see if your possible new team rockstar is good at reading minds through osmosis is the first reason they won't…

I would say we have a lot of evidence that great candidates enjoyed doing our challenges, but certainly it isn't for everybody. You are free to not do the challenges.

As for your secondary point about the quality of our team, I encourage you to read our engineering blog (http://www.thumbtack.com/engineering/) and look at some of our open source contributions (https://github.com/thumbtack). I think you will find more than enough material there to see what our engineering team is all about.

Re: The Startup Resume

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post #27
post #7

This is the resume that has gotten me at least a call-back from every startup I have ever sent it to: [paraphrased since I type the email every time anew] Hi, I'm a coder from Slovenia. I like writing JavaScript and Python. I'm learning Haskell. Here is my github: http://github.com/Swizec I have a blog at http://swizec.com Most recently I did cool thing X Cheers, ~Swizec

Has it worked? Which startup are you with now? I see from your blog you are interviewing with Google (not a startup anymore), but still not bad. Are you still open to finding the right fit with a startup? Are you "startup friendly" (appropriate expectations of work hours, pay, and equity)? I find the latter to be the biggest hangup in folks that we're looking to add to our team. They like the tech challenge, but can'…

I'm not sure why but the phrase "Are you 'startup friendly' (appropriate expectations of work hours, pay, and equity)?" just rubs me the wrong way.

Joining a startup is a two way street. If you are considering joining one, you should do as much diligence (or even more) than they are doing on you. I, personally, love startups -- the energy, the diversity of problems, the ability to learn and grow. But, I've also been bitten by all the glitz (early in my career during bubble one) as well as people that thing "it's a startup" is an excuse to demand above and beyond efforts on a regular basis.

In general, you are going to work more at a startup, you may or may not get paid less, and you will need to weigh the whole work/life balance thing, most likely. You might be asked to make a tradeoff between equity and salary.

The tangibles you have control over (salary, time you are willing to commit, etc) are the ones you need to weigh. But, you also need to understand as much as you can about the expectations of those in management.

Poor planning, for instance, should never be excuse by "this is a startup" -- I don't mean pivoting, I don't mean tweaking as new information comes along, I mean those people that can't make up their mind on what constitutes the expected deliverable by a particular date.

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