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I might be missing some context due to your curt response. Are you implying that mines were once considered a high-class "cool" job to have, like working at Google, Uber, SpaceX, or Twitter was a decade+ ago (and still is today for many?)? What is the connection here, exactly?
When I read things like this, I think back on my experience in games and entertainment. I believe that the more generally prestigious the industry is, the more likely it is to see worker exploitation. Part of your pay is wrapped up in getting to brag that you work in industry X on product Y. Almost by definition, that means young, passionate labor. Industry leaders quickly learn how to exploit the young and passionat…
I totally agree with your diagnosis, but I don’t see why it’s considered to be a problem. Why shouldn’t people be free to trade off salary against other desirable traits in a job? Even at the extremes?
Lacking that, power dynamics are such that workers need protections enshrined in legislation. If salaries are a race-to-the-bottom, nobody benefits except the ones doing the hiring. You may have a "job," but the market salary average would be depressed while the companies enjoy a large talent pool of replaceable workers.
If I didn't know history too well, I likely wouldn't hold this position. But it's clear as day if you crack open a history book.
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Does Japan have a labor movement? I would expect not a strong one.
When I read things like this, I think back on my experience in games and entertainment. I believe that the more generally prestigious the industry is, the more likely it is to see worker exploitation. Part of your pay is wrapped up in getting to brag that you work in industry X on product Y. Almost by definition, that means young, passionate labor. Industry leaders quickly learn how to exploit the young and passionat…
College kids flipping burgers made more and got leftovers. If there’s one set of people from that era I can never find on LinkedIn, it’s game developers. No idea what happened to any of them.
searches for "union" hahaha yep, this word exists in this article but entirely in the context of how Japanese animators have absolutely no union. I ain't saying the US animation union is perfect but at least there is one; if I hear that some big production like Spiderverse2 is at a non-union shop then it's off my list to bother seeing, even via piracy. I trained to be in this industry and burnt right the fuck out fro…
Does Japan have a labor movement? I would expect not a strong one.
Jokes aside, though, yes they do. Though as far as I am aware, mostly in the traditional sense for the primary industry sector to keep companys from working employees to death physically but not really modernized in the tertiary sector.
Memberships are declining and I think a great many issues that make life difficult for people in these now more prominent sectors of industry are not openly recognized and tackled.
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When the alternative is starving, they do. The problem isn't children being allowed to work in mines. The problem is the lack of superior alternatives available to them.
I always thought it weird that we have minimum wage levels for hourly workers, but once you're salaried, you work however many hours your employer wants, or you get marginalized or fired.
For many HNers that's not that big a deal, as our effective hourly wage still ends up to be many hundreds of dollars. But there are salaried workers down at the low end who are required to work quite a bit more than the 40 hours a week their "nominal" hourly wage might be calculated off of, and some of those people end up well below what a minimum wage would be for hourly workers.
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I might be missing some context due to your curt response. Are you implying that mines were once considered a high-class "cool" job to have, like working at Google, Uber, SpaceX, or Twitter was a decade+ ago (and still is today for many?)? What is the connection here, exactly?
You're taking it too literally. The phrase "the children yearn for the mines" is a sarcastic meme phrase.
This community tries not to do that, but instead of just downvoting, I was hoping to retain some value in their contribution, keep the conversation on topic.