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Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by linsomniac » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 8:34 PM UTC

pcthrowaway wrote: post #510

linsomniac wrote: post #326

Somewhat related: A month ago I migrated from Spotify to YTMusic (Youtube), and published the scripts I used to do it. People have kind of come out of the woodwork: reporting issues, starring the repo, asking questions, last night I found someone has written a GUI for it. https://github.com/linsomniac/spotify_to_ytmusic The biggest reason I ditched Spotify is that their shuffle play of playlists is laughably bad. I l…

YTMusic is still a pale imitation of what Google Play Music used to be... but it's also still my main streaming service simply because most of my library transferred from GPM.

Agreed, I switched to Spotify when Google ditched Play Music, largely because my Google Home was terrible at using voice commands to play YTMusic "Liked Songs", I could never get it to work reliably. Then I found Spotify is just as bad at that use-case, but also worse at shuffle.

I had a friend that worked on Google Play, and he said it would have been much better if the labels hadn't gotten involved, in the form of demands made...

My primary complaint with YTMusic is that there isn't a way to "shuffle play", you have to start playing a playlist and then click "shuffle" and then click "next".

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by linsomniac » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 8:36 PM UTC

CatDaaaady wrote: post #434

linsomniac wrote: post #326

Somewhat related: A month ago I migrated from Spotify to YTMusic (Youtube), and published the scripts I used to do it. People have kind of come out of the woodwork: reporting issues, starring the repo, asking questions, last night I found someone has written a GUI for it. https://github.com/linsomniac/spotify_to_ytmusic The biggest reason I ditched Spotify is that their shuffle play of playlists is laughably bad. I l…

Oh my! I thought this weird behavior was just something _I_ experienced on Spotify. I'm always asking myself, "didn't I just hear this song?"

Nope. Here is the Spotify Forum thread I was mentioning: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Op...

A couple corrections: It's from 2020, not 2017, and it "only" has 114 pages of replies rather than 200.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by linsomniac » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 8:38 PM UTC

linsomniac wrote: post #326

Somewhat related: A month ago I migrated from Spotify to YTMusic (Youtube), and published the scripts I used to do it. People have kind of come out of the woodwork: reporting issues, starring the repo, asking questions, last night I found someone has written a GUI for it. https://github.com/linsomniac/spotify_to_ytmusic The biggest reason I ditched Spotify is that their shuffle play of playlists is laughably bad. I l…

Another option is to use a tool that shuffles your playlist: https://spotifyshuffler.com

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by benkaiser » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 8:42 PM UTC

This being native is super nice!

I maintain an open source web-based music player called Stretto[1]. It works well as a PWA on Android, but it depends on a chrome extension to bypass CORs.

Allows you to import playlists from Spotify and automatically backs them with a YouTube track (similar to this service). Also supports adding SoundCloud tracks, for those that love their remixes.

[1]https://github.com/benkaiser/stretto

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by erk__ » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 8:43 PM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #2

Nifty. Please be aware that this is not a "spotify client" per se. It gets the data from Spotify, and plays the audio from YouTube. It's an interesting invention, and worthy of the first page, if you ask me.

This was the trick used by bots on Discord that played music (before they pretty much all got disallowed)

It would simply get the title from the Spotify API and then look it up on YouTube to play.

At some point I actually had set up a rather awful hack where I had a Discord bot that could play webradio and then pointed it towards my own Mopidy server which used the Spotify plugin to have a webpage such that multiple people could add songs and such. It was a great hack though I did not use it for long.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by aydarkh » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 8:47 PM UTC

lxgr wrote: post #530

Alifatisk wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried Flutter on my previous project, it’s good, like really good. Dart has its weird parts but other than that, I enjoy it a lot.

I've heard many good things about it from Android developers. As an iOS user, I despise it. Apps written in it feel extremely janky. How is it even possible to bring down an iPhone 15 Pro to what seems like less than 10 fps in simple UI element scrolling?

I think it's skill issue

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by smashah » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 8:47 PM UTC

hackernewds wrote: post #397

bayindirh wrote: post #2

Nifty. Please be aware that this is not a "spotify client" per se. It gets the data from Spotify, and plays the audio from YouTube. It's an interesting invention, and worthy of the first page, if you ask me.

Watch Spotify revoke their public API key or reduce access to the public API because of this

Let's stop developer (victim) blaming for soulless billion dollar companies restricting API access.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by portaouflop » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 8:51 PM UTC

jug wrote: post #116

portaouflop wrote: post #66

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So they started out pirating music and then decided they want to get rich from stolen culture while giving nothing back. That is taking the whole pirate meme a bit too literally.

Their Beta yeah, but the vast majority of their wealth is built on venture capital where they give many things back. It's a very popular service that musicians want to be on. Neither popularity nor musicians would happen if they didn't give anything back.

Just because something is popular, backed by venture capital, or widely used does not guarantee that it is fair or positive for the culture.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by portaouflop » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 9:03 PM UTC

apwell23 wrote: post #534

portaouflop wrote: post #443

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Of course a celebrated artist with a 50+ year career that is a national icon won’t be reliant on digital distribution… I think that would be obvious to anyone that wants to have a conversation in good faith.

I read you comment, looked at what spotify was playing on my speakers and posted that comment because you said 'every'. I really have no idea who that artist was or even what language that is. Your comment wouldn't have been worthy of a response if you had said 'small artists'. Because thats well known problem with all streaming platforms and not just music. Now looks like you are not even saying 'small artists' . It…

I would suggest you educate yourself a little bit about the culture you consume. The artist you chose is extremely well known and about 85 years old so I can’t take your example serious.

Of course I can’t give an extremely precise category of artist that is better paid directly than through Spotify - but everyone reading that argument in good faith knows what is meant.

You just choose to read it in the most unfavourable way imaginable.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by drewdevault » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 9:14 PM UTC

gnramires wrote: post #156

drewdevault wrote: post #51

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Maybe, maybe not. If an artist makes up 1% of your listening, that goes down to a dollar, and if you factor in more realistic listening habits that goes down further. Consider that this is paid to the rights holder, not the artist, as well -- the artist usually gets even less. Buy one album on Bandcamp for $10 and the rights holder gets $8.50 (on Bandcamp this is usually the artist directly). Fact of the matter is th…

People are saying about 70% of Spotify revenue goes to rights holders, whereas you're saying about 85% of Bandcamp's revenue goes to rights holders. It really doesn't seem like that much of a difference? Maybe what you're saying is, you end up spending much more buying merchandise and labuns directly than you would spend on Spotify. (I'm not sure this would be true for everyone though) Maybe then the solution could b…

> People are saying about 70% of Spotify revenue goes to rights holders, whereas you're saying about 85% of Bandcamp's revenue goes to rights holders. It really doesn't seem like that much of a difference?

85% of a bigger number is significantly more than 70% of a much smaller number.