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Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by nprateem »

linsomniac wrote: post #326

Somewhat related: A month ago I migrated from Spotify to YTMusic (Youtube), and published the scripts I used to do it. People have kind of come out of the woodwork: reporting issues, starring the repo, asking questions, last night I found someone has written a GUI for it. https://github.com/linsomniac/spotify_to_ytmusic The biggest reason I ditched Spotify is that their shuffle play of playlists is laughably bad. I l…

I love the fact that whatever song radio station I choose on spotify it always recommends me the same 30 songs. I'm starting to think they only have 50 songs in their whole library...

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Post by geden »

Moru wrote: post #314
jjulius wrote: post #258

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>Spotify is about as convieinient as a streaming music platform gets. Convenient for users, but you'd be hard-pressed to find artists who are content with the payments they get from Spotify. And that's across the spectrum, from world-famous pop artists to indie artists struggling to get heard. I'm huge into music so I'm "OK" with Spotify for the sake of convenience and all that, but if people are really digging a pie…

The reason artists are not happy with Spotify is because their record label takes 80% of the small profit they would get from streaming. I saw an interview with a swedish artist that was quite happy with the streaming money thanks to not having signed under any label. All the money goes directly to him.

It’s more complex than that. A major reason artists don’t like Spotify because Spotify shows the number of track streams and regular listeners. This has a huge negative effect on many artists mental health.

Artists signed to Major label’s might get Spotify’s rate per stream is certainly low. And they are in no way artist friendly.

(I manage artists).

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by [deleted] »

dartharva wrote: post #506

It's puzzling to me how much excitement this is suddenly generating on HN. Yes, mixing Spotify playlists with a YouTube frontend is a great idea, but in no way is this new. Anyone following the app modding scene on XDA-Developers (pre-enshittification) or Telegram has likely seen atleast half a dozen apps that have been implementing the same thing for the last five years.

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Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by apwell23 »

portaouflop wrote: post #443
apwell23 wrote: post #278

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> Nesrin Sipahi is a far cry from a small indie artist that relies on support by their fan base. Who said this though? This is what you originally said. > If you care about the artist here pay them directly either through bandcamp I responded to this > I assure you that every artist that wants to make money will have set up _something_ Why did you bring 'far cry from a small indie artist ' into the picture all of sud…

Of course a celebrated artist with a 50+ year career that is a national icon won’t be reliant on digital distribution… I think that would be obvious to anyone that wants to have a conversation in good faith.

I read you comment, looked at what spotify was playing on my speakers and posted that comment because you said 'every'. I really have no idea who that artist was or even what language that is.

Your comment wouldn't have been worthy of a response if you had said 'small artists'. Because thats well known problem with all streaming platforms and not just music.

Now looks like you are not even saying 'small artists' . It only applies arists who are not 'well known' ? No idea what you are even trying to say. Maybe use some precision ?

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Post by throwoutway »

linsomniac wrote: post #326

Somewhat related: A month ago I migrated from Spotify to YTMusic (Youtube), and published the scripts I used to do it. People have kind of come out of the woodwork: reporting issues, starring the repo, asking questions, last night I found someone has written a GUI for it. https://github.com/linsomniac/spotify_to_ytmusic The biggest reason I ditched Spotify is that their shuffle play of playlists is laughably bad. I l…

Spotify product management has a history of not listening to customers, and thinking they know better, with lots of HN examples in threads about it

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Post by bayindirh »

kjqgqkejbfefn wrote: post #458
bayindirh wrote: post #360

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The quality ceiling for any recording you have is the quality ceiling of the weakest link in your audio pipeline. This means, to be able to get a good sound from any system, you have to feed it a good signal, and that path starts with recording. Current audio codecs are great from a psychoacoustic point of view. A good encoder can create an enjoyable file at modest bitrates (192kbps for MP3, and 128kbps for AAC IIRC)…

What's your take on audio systems that deliver vibrations. I have a nuraphone and a subpac. Great for listening to trap music or iranian experimental.

I genuinely have no opinion. I like to use a vintage amplifier with a couple of beefy bookshelf speakers. I run a couple of Heco Celan GT302s with an AKAI AM-2850.

It's a very well balanced system for my needs and room size. That's a pretty nifty setup for me.

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Post by denysvitali »

lxgr wrote: post #529
denysvitali wrote: post #155

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Flutter, from experience, works really well on Android. Unfortunately the same cannot be said about the web (see for example [1]). I think that if these performance issues were to be solved, Flutter would see a bigger adoption. In any case IMHO Flutter >>>>> Electron [1]: https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/56257

Flutter on the web is absurd: At least when I last checked, it's been rendering UI widgets into an HTML canvas by default, using its own low-level drawing library. That sounds about as good of an idea as the old Java desktop GUI framework that used to (poorly) imitate native UI elements of Windows and macOS: Everything always looked three major versions behind and felt extremely janky.

I wouldn't care less if it worked in a performant way - in the end Flutter apps are using their own design (Material 2 / 3) - so rendering them in a Canvas is OK-ish.

The problem is that, on the web, the performance is extremely poor, so Flutter is still not worth being used there (IMHO).

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by linsomniac »

achairapart wrote: post #494
linsomniac wrote: post #401

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I agree with you that it seems to work fine on playlists of less than 50 or 100 songs. The problem seems to be that on larger playlists they will only use 50-100 of the tracks to shuffle through. Most times I'm listening to music I just want to put on a shuffle of all my favorites and listen. It's been that way since I got my first CD changer. Maybe that's a super unusual use case, but it's my primary one, and I get…

Yes, it looks like there is some artificial placement. This may be driven by malice (some sort of paid or more lucrative placement, like you said), but also by stupidity (algo prioritizing songs already in the client cache, to save some egress bandwidth perhaps?). So I started clearing the Spotify client cache more often, and it looks to me there is more diversity, at least on the auto-generated "recommended songs" p…

The "recommended songs" playlists seem to have more diversity, but also seem to be fairly short (they'll repeat in a couple hours it feels like; I rarely listen to them when I'm working because they'll start repeating, and I don't usually listen to music for a large fraction of the day, so I'm guessing 1-2 hours).

My best guess is that they are assuming no playlist is more than 50-100 songs, and are limiting the shuffle to that number, so that a shuffle doesn't consume too many resources (memory, database hits, CPU cycles). Maybe someone, possibly in the distant past had a large playlist that caused service problems. And because of that they clamped WAY down to prevent it.

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Post by dangus »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #440
dangus wrote: post #396

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Under your same logic nobody should buy anything from your employer because they don’t pay you 100% of their profits. Probably only 2 or 3 dollars of every 10 they make goes to salary. But we all know running a business has costs that aren’t salary. Artists who sign to major labels get promotion and other assistance that costs money. That’s the trade off. And they’re making less money than before because people pirat…

Luckily for me, I don't feel like my employer has tasked me with working against our users interests. I want them to succeed at the things they're trying to do and I'm working in support of that goal. But if things were otherwise? Then yes, the users should either walk away or they should circumvent whatever handcuffs I'm hypothetically building for them. In that scenario, I'd absolutely participate in cutting my emp…

Sounds like a pretty luxurious position to be in. I wonder if your local Walmart associate ever thought of working for a more morally upstanding company? Maybe they could start their own retailer with better values. Should be pretty easy to spin up some distribution centers right?
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