Because of the issues with OpenVPN/Wireguard blocking, a few months ago I completely switched to shadowsocks which I think mostly works.
But it looks like https://github.com/amnezia-vpn/amneziawg-go -- is the way to go, which is an obfuscated wireguard.
Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
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Russia produces more container ships by tonnage than the US with a fraction of the population, to pick just one example of many. Before SpaceX, the US was dependent on them for rides to the ISS. They produce some of the most formidable and battle-tested military-technical systems in the world. How exactly is that a failed state? Seems like you want other people to make the same decision you did since maybe you’re uns…
Stalin managed to kill more Russians and Ukranians than Germany did during both world wars combined. Putin is turning the country into a geriatric corpse because young people who have other options leave and those who can't get killed in the war or don't want to bring children into this kind of future. A functioning state has to at least keep it's residents from getting mass murdered or facing such a bleak future that they die out voluntarily.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#123I have the fortune to reside in Russia-controlled Donbas. Over here they have been blocking all WireGuard connections for a long time. OpenVPN seems to be blocked selectively depending on the host. The government and commerce must need it more than WireGuard. It isn't consistent. Different ISPs block different hosts and protocols at different times. I assume we are a kind of test and staging environment for censorshi…
Thank you so much for posting this.
If anyone else has any educated guesses about the mechanism, please do share!
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#124Unfortunately, thanks to the Great Firewall of China, there has been a lot of resources put in to fingerprint VPNs and block them by state actors. Fortunately, however, there is equally years of some of the smartest minds on the planet working to bypass Chinese censorship, so there are some great OpenVPN alternatives. I really encourage you to look into something like Shadowsocks which Chinese people have found great…
Outline ( https://getoutline.org ) is even easier to deploy than Streisand in my experience and uses Shadowsocks.
>getoutline.org uses cookies from Google to deliver and enhance the quality of its services and to analyze traffic. Learn more.
Doesn't even let me decline cookies not required for operation of the website, yet wants me to trust them with my data?
gtfo.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#125Bashkiria is heating up with thousands on the streets for two days in a row, plus moscow rolling blackouts just kicked in.
Already supressed, which is expected given that it's just 2 months before the election.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great example of how Russian propaganda works. To western readers it reads like sarcasm because we acknowledge the truth contained in it. There are tons of addiction problems we are sorting through with these services. But western readers also see clearly the draconian overtones of tyranny in this sort of approach. Hence it reads like sarcasm. To russian and other readers living in dictatorships, this sort of thing h…
The idea that Western readers can clearly see the draconian overtones of tyranny seems laughable after the last several years. And let's not even mention the fact that Marxism, fascism and Nazism have all originated in Europe...
> The idea that Western readers can clearly see the draconian overtones of tyranny seems laughable after the last several years.
This is a very confusing statement... Why is it laughable to have an education system that teaches us history and critical thinking to see tyranny, even in our societies? Or now you're also on the boat that Stalin was a nice guy after all?
> And let's not even mention the fact that Marxism, fascism and Nazism have all originated in Europe...
The question that you should be asking is: what originated in Russia? Right? Misery, genocide, poverty...
Ones learn from history to avoid it, while modern Russia seems to draw inspiration from Nazi Germany.
Very confusing comment.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#127Unfortunately, thanks to the Great Firewall of China, there has been a lot of resources put in to fingerprint VPNs and block them by state actors. Fortunately, however, there is equally years of some of the smartest minds on the planet working to bypass Chinese censorship, so there are some great OpenVPN alternatives. I really encourage you to look into something like Shadowsocks which Chinese people have found great…
What's the current legal risk of using a VPN in China or Russia these days? I found a couple articles about people getting charged, but none I know to be reputable or particularly well written.
Don't forget that the "real" risk and the "legal" risk in states like Russia/China can be very different.
The laws are written in specifically vague verbiage as to be interpreted in favor of state actors by judges whenever they need to be. You may be clear in the letter of the law in your mind, until a charge is brought up against you using another law, etc.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shadowsocks does work against MITM attacks by my US ISP Comcast though. It is great software.
What "MITM attacks" are you talking about?
Not the person you're replying to, but most ISPs and cellular providers log DNS queries and use that to profile you or resell to data brokers.
If you want to have some fun understanding this better, call up (for example) Verizon and have them send you the data they have on you. It's surprisingly detailed, including timestamped logs of every DNS query (in addition to specific profiling data, like "how likely you are to buy a new phone" or "household income", etc).
https://www.verizon.com/support/download-and-view-vpd-file/
After doing this myself, I always (at a minimum) use a privacy centric DNS and never the ISP's default.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Outline ( https://getoutline.org ) is even easier to deploy than Streisand in my experience and uses Shadowsocks.
>getoutline.org uses cookies from Google to deliver and enhance the quality of its services and to analyze traffic. Learn more. Doesn't even let me decline cookies not required for operation of the website, yet wants me to trust them with my data? gtfo.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
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> You do realize Putin has a significantly higher approval rating among Russians than Biden, Trump, or Congress has among Americans, yes? I'm not going to waste time arguing about fantasy. If you want to have a discussion grounded in reality, I'm up for it. With that said, that statement you made you have in no way shape or form to support it - not about Biden, Trump or Congress, but about Putin. You have no idea how…
"Independent Polling" of people living under a repressive regime appears to be 100% impossible to me.
Yet the idea that such a thing exists seems widespread?
Can anyone here explain how independent polling under a repressive regime can be accomplished? Please educate me/us!