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Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
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Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#112Russian here, living in Russia. My paid VPN provider stopped working months ago. Then my self-hosted Outline server stopped working. Then my self-hosted OpenVPN stopped working too. Both were hosten on Digital Ocean (Frankfurt). What currently works for me is self-hosted Outline running on an US server, but I suspect that won't last long. Looks like I have no choice but to learn how to self-host XRay. A smart friend…
As a curiosity, how do you pay for an EU VPS given the sanctions?
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#113I have the fortune to reside in Russia-controlled Donbas. Over here they have been blocking all WireGuard connections for a long time. OpenVPN seems to be blocked selectively depending on the host. The government and commerce must need it more than WireGuard. It isn't consistent. Different ISPs block different hosts and protocols at different times. I assume we are a kind of test and staging environment for censorshi…
OpenVPN looks more similar to regular https traffic, hence its a bit more difficult to fingerprint.
Even though openvpn uses TLS, AFAIK it's used on top of some wrapper which makes it trivial to detect and block. At least in my experience it's the one of the first protocols to get blocked.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
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That's kind of what being bathed in a constant firehose of disinformation does to public opinion, though, right? Most of those people aren't even living on earth one.
That's kind of what ten years in the gulag for a wrong opinion do to public opinion.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#115Might be a case of me being too stupid to use ctrl + f
But its very much worth mentioning that Russia has totalitarian laws that criminalize the use of vpns.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#116Russian here, living in Russia. My paid VPN provider stopped working months ago. Then my self-hosted Outline server stopped working. Then my self-hosted OpenVPN stopped working too. Both were hosten on Digital Ocean (Frankfurt). What currently works for me is self-hosted Outline running on an US server, but I suspect that won't last long. Looks like I have no choice but to learn how to self-host XRay. A smart friend…
As a curiosity, how do you pay for an EU VPS given the sanctions?
DO does accept cryptocurrencies, that could be an option
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#117Unfortunately, thanks to the Great Firewall of China, there has been a lot of resources put in to fingerprint VPNs and block them by state actors. Fortunately, however, there is equally years of some of the smartest minds on the planet working to bypass Chinese censorship, so there are some great OpenVPN alternatives. I really encourage you to look into something like Shadowsocks which Chinese people have found great…
What's the current legal risk of using a VPN in China or Russia these days? I found a couple articles about people getting charged, but none I know to be reputable or particularly well written.
In Russia using VPN itself is not illegal. Using VPN to do certain stuff can be punished, of course.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the current legal risk of using a VPN in China or Russia these days? I found a couple articles about people getting charged, but none I know to be reputable or particularly well written.
China at least, isn’t a strong rule of law country, rather it is more of a rule by law one. So if they want to get you, they’ll find some law to get you on, and if they don’t, they won’t go after you for using a VPN or other minor offenses. So I wouldn’t really worry about it.
Pretty much the same applies to Putin's Russia as well.
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#119I have the fortune to reside in Russia-controlled Donbas. Over here they have been blocking all WireGuard connections for a long time. OpenVPN seems to be blocked selectively depending on the host. The government and commerce must need it more than WireGuard. It isn't consistent. Different ISPs block different hosts and protocols at different times. I assume we are a kind of test and staging environment for censorshi…
OpenVPN looks more similar to regular https traffic, hence its a bit more difficult to fingerprint.
Openvpn is trivial to see , what you need to do is wrap it in stunnel
Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
#120Russian here, living in Russia. My paid VPN provider stopped working months ago. Then my self-hosted Outline server stopped working. Then my self-hosted OpenVPN stopped working too. Both were hosten on Digital Ocean (Frankfurt). What currently works for me is self-hosted Outline running on an US server, but I suspect that won't last long. Looks like I have no choice but to learn how to self-host XRay. A smart friend…
As a curiosity, how do you pay for an EU VPS given the sanctions?
Via a business bank account in one of the Baltic countries, or via a personal bank account in Georgia.
For people who don't have bank accounts in other countries, or are of conscription age (means you can't get an international passport which is necessary to cross the border) I'd recommend teaming up with friends who emigrated. Some of them still need rubles in Russia (to pay for mortgages, or help their parents), so you provide them with rubles and they pay for your VPS.