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Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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This is such an American take. A lot of people are not American and your issues are not ours. Stop the Cultural Imperialism. Educate yourself about the rest of the world.

I'm British.

Potato, Potato. Anglos gonna Anglo.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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I would say yes. They try hard to make cooks laugh. This is one of their recipes: APOCALYPSE RAMEN This is basically like regular ramen soup but with three critical differences: - It is intensely chaotic, which is to say that you can pretty much toss anything into it and say you did it on purpose. - It's slightly healthier, if your depression has lifted enough that you want to eat something other than delicious, deli…

put boiling water in a jar and then shake it up? Ouch! when you agitate hot water, it evaporates a lot faster, bringing the pressure in the jar to great heights. If your seal is not good, or if you open the jar scalding water can come shooting out onto your hands. a similar thing happens when you put boiling water in a blender and turn the blender on (your blender seal is not good) explosive results.

Please note the name of the recipe.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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If we have to use an analogy I think a better analogy is that it’s blunt like a dull knife. From a ways back it might look sharp but zoom in and it’s not. The only way any of the current ai appears competent in any domain is if the user themselves it not.

I think its totally the other way around actually. It looks blunt from afar, but when you use it on specific fiddly things, it does a great job. Domain experts get the most out of it. The average person really can't use it well. I do agree with you that output on non domain specific tasks does not stand up to scrutiny. However, I often have to remind people that gpt4, and chatgpt in particular are not really llm's fu…

> Domain experts get the most out of it. The average person really can't use it well.

This is the exact opposite of what research has shown so far. Top performers show productivity _decreases_ with LLM assistance, lower performers and less experienced users show a modest improvement. [0]

[0] https://www.nber.org/papers/w31161

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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My guess would be this is an overzealous AI-generated content detector. Amazon has been flooded with low quality AI generated books in the past ~year, and has been removing a lot of it. My guess would be they're still tweaking their algorithms as folks generating books change their tactics. Hopefully a human will respond soon!

>My guess would be this is an overzealous AI-generated content detector. Maybe not. If you go by the screenshot of the email from Amazon in the Mastodon link, the book was removed for violating "Community Guidelines" instead of the actual content of the book itself. This is the "Community Guidelines" url in that email: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=... So taking Amazon's reason at face v…

Seems like a nice way of killing a competitor's products.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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All the customers are there and the company has perhaps spent more time than any other figuring out how to sell books to people. They're better at it than everyone else.

So not much authors can do. As a consumer, I invest time and money to try buy elsewhere (and boycott Amazon) when I can, but it's not always easy. Also, I'm aware that these kind of Don Quixote boycots seldomly have an impact macro economically. Nevertheless, I keep trying...

I’m the same. I haven’t bought anything from Amazon in nearly 4 years. The top spot on my “worst companies in the world” list is usually tied between Amazon, Meta and Nestle.

Macroeconomically, it probably makes precisely zero difference, but it makes me feel better to be supporting local shops.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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I think its totally the other way around actually. It looks blunt from afar, but when you use it on specific fiddly things, it does a great job. Domain experts get the most out of it. The average person really can't use it well. I do agree with you that output on non domain specific tasks does not stand up to scrutiny. However, I often have to remind people that gpt4, and chatgpt in particular are not really llm's fu…

> Domain experts get the most out of it. The average person really can't use it well. This is the exact opposite of what research has shown so far. Top performers show productivity _decreases_ with LLM assistance, lower performers and less experienced users show a modest improvement. [0] [0] https://www.nber.org/papers/w31161

I reckon the midwit meme applies here.

Noobs think AI is amazing.

Midwits who never bothered to try to leverage it or can't evaluate it or just regurgitate what they hear think it's shit. I wager these people don't create much so they don't have a domain to really apply it, so they rely on others to report how good/bad/useful/shit it is.

Then there are creators or tinkerers who've leveraged AI to do obviously time-saving or amazing things understand its power/potential and they have the receipts.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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post #143

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I think its totally the other way around actually. It looks blunt from afar, but when you use it on specific fiddly things, it does a great job. Domain experts get the most out of it. The average person really can't use it well. I do agree with you that output on non domain specific tasks does not stand up to scrutiny. However, I often have to remind people that gpt4, and chatgpt in particular are not really llm's fu…

> Domain experts get the most out of it. The average person really can't use it well. This is the exact opposite of what research has shown so far. Top performers show productivity _decreases_ with LLM assistance, lower performers and less experienced users show a modest improvement. [0] [0] https://www.nber.org/papers/w31161

LLM output reminds me of the essays I had to write in college. They tick all the boxes in a curriculum and demonstrate a basic grasp on syntax, but they're hot garbage. Your first encounter with an editor as a professional or advanced hobbyist burns that away and reveals the foundation of your true form as a writer.

LLMs are in desperate need of something that bridges that gap if they're to do anything more than help people cheat in college and annoy editors. At least for the purpose of producing writing for use. They're great when I want to scrape a web page and its links for archiving and need a quick wget command line.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Zilla here (one of the Sad Bastard Cookbook authors). Thanks so much for your support ... I'm lowkey dropping "front page of Hacker News" when I talk to Amazon Service reps now, in the vague hope they have any power to actually help me. I think I've reached at least one real person, but in the days of AI voice chat, who can tell? Many of you asked why we use Amazon as the exclusive printer/distributor of the print ed…

I've had good luck with Lulu. My experience was short-runs. I sometimes like to make custom notebooks for myself and friends. But the quality was good. Lulu will print spiral fold flat editions. Might come in handy for a cookbook.

I've also had good luck with Blurb. They do high quality photobooks. Which isn't what you're selling, but I'm mentioning them because they will offer your book for sale, print-on-demand, via their site. And wouldn't be surprised if they have a way of selling via Amazon. They wouldn't be a bad choice if you wanted to sell a $50+ coffee table edition of your cookbook. Or a bit lower for a paperback edition.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Zilla here (one of the Sad Bastard Cookbook authors). Thanks so much for your support ... I'm lowkey dropping "front page of Hacker News" when I talk to Amazon Service reps now, in the vague hope they have any power to actually help me. I think I've reached at least one real person, but in the days of AI voice chat, who can tell? Many of you asked why we use Amazon as the exclusive printer/distributor of the print ed…

I've had good luck with Lulu. My experience was short-runs. I sometimes like to make custom notebooks for myself and friends. But the quality was good. Lulu will print spiral fold flat editions. Might come in handy for a cookbook. I've also had good luck with Blurb. They do high quality photobooks. Which isn't what you're selling, but I'm mentioning them because they will offer your book for sale, print-on-demand, vi…

Oh thank you, I'll look into that!

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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- "Allowing young people with darker skin to grow up in a society that celebrates, rather than disparages blackness." The link you're making here is something I don't understand. If I'm black, and I'm at a funeral and everyone is wearing the color black, am I being disparaged? Or if I'm reading some code and the comment's talking about "blacklists"? Is that subjectively disparaging? Is that something I'd even notice…

I don't think wearing black at funeral is signalling anything other than respect?

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