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Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by Snow_Falls »

Fbnkigffb66tfbj wrote: post #74
akie wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overly aggressive denials of simple requests ("please use another word") just make me wonder why you are so upset about it? Blacklist/whitelist DO reinforce the notion that black = bad and white = good, so what's the deal with using a different word? I truly don't understand why people would get upset by simple requests like that.

Because requests like that are just the tip of the iceberg. I think it's a reasonable response to resist groups who are trying to aggressively effect cultural change in ways with which I disagree. And as the other commentor said, I won't complain about whatever terminology you use when you write or speak, but I expect the same respect in return.

Slippery slope arguments are considered a fallacy for a reason.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by leetrout »

coolandsmartrr wrote: post #71
perihelions wrote: post #13

Also available here, https://nightbeatseu.ca/works/the-sad-bastard-cookbook/ https://traumbooks.itch.io/the-sad-bastard-cookbook - "We made it legal with Creative Commons (4.0 attribution non-commercial), but if you get a thrill from breaking the law, you can pretend it’s not."

I love the copyright description. Is this book full of humor like this?

Yes. They note things like being reliably informed salt makes (most) things better.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by Snow_Falls »

flir wrote: post #93
lwhi wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you need to? .. it relates to the act of washing white paint over something. There's no logical reason for a negative list to be known as a 'blacklist' as far as I can tell? Ultimately, I don't think adjusting language is more dull or drab that using the term blacklist. But no one likes being corrected, and no one likes being told what to do. I get that .. but I honestly didn't mean to cause offence to you.

No offence, I swear! Just a slight toothache and an overactive sense of saracsm here. But I am a bit lost now. I thought we were trying to avoid colour-terms-that-are-also-race-terms in language. Whitewashing ok, whitelist bad?

Could you please stop with the false niceness? If you want to be sarcastic you can just do that. Deception squicks me out.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by aaron695 »

akie wrote: post #55
Fbnkigffb66tfbj wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Overly aggressive denials of simple requests ("please use another word") just make me wonder why you are so upset about it? Blacklist/whitelist DO reinforce the notion that black = bad and white = good, so what's the deal with using a different word? I truly don't understand why people would get upset by simple requests like that.

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Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by vsnf »

lwhi wrote: post #94
vsnf wrote: post #75

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The counterpoint is why spend so much effort language policing others words? There is no need to force this change, and it just causes needless consternation. Use allowlist if you must but don’t force your change on me for the sake of your own sensibilities.

There's a logical reason for this. Our language was formed at a time where racism was more endemic. We now live in a society that endeavours to be less racist; but language hasn't caught up. .. what's your argument for not doing this?

You’re clearly passionate about this cause, and while I respect your dedication to equality I wish you’d find a different target to redirect your vigor towards.

Policing my language is not a way to win friends, it’s a way to force your view on me. I find this offensive. A sibling commenter mentioned that you’re going to cause others to dig in their heels, and I agree with them. Your zealotry in demanding that I change my speech is overbearing and likely damaging to your cause.

I also notice you’ve twice called other posters cowards, asserted that another should “educate themselves”, and said that you don’t have time for people who “aren’t interested in making the world a better place”, defined as such, of course, by you. Not only are you deciding for others how they should be thinking and speaking, you’re also aggressive about it. I’d encourage you to re-assess your authoritarian attitude.

There are better venues to creating a more equal society than to force others to speak in your preferred manner just because you don’t like certain words.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by wegfawefgawefg »

raffraffraff wrote: post #57
cdrini wrote: post #31

My guess would be this is an overzealous AI-generated content detector. Amazon has been flooded with low quality AI generated books in the past ~year, and has been removing a lot of it. My guess would be they're still tweaking their algorithms as folks generating books change their tactics. Hopefully a human will respond soon!

Aren't people en-masse realising that AI, for all its impressive bling, is a stupid blunt instrument? If you've used it for any amount of time you'll know this. Sure, it's a great time-saver, and if you use it wisely it can remove a lot of tedium. But if you're a developer, one thing you'll know is that it cannot replace developers. You still need to structure your whole project yourself, figure out what the data sch…

It's blunt if youre using it for dumb shit in the same way that a hammer is a blunt instrument if used to break peoples stuff. If you are using it for highly domain specific knowledge its very good, whether that's protien folding, teaching you some arcane programming language macro, etc.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by refulgentis »

raffraffraff wrote: post #57
cdrini wrote: post #31

My guess would be this is an overzealous AI-generated content detector. Amazon has been flooded with low quality AI generated books in the past ~year, and has been removing a lot of it. My guess would be they're still tweaking their algorithms as folks generating books change their tactics. Hopefully a human will respond soon!

Aren't people en-masse realising that AI, for all its impressive bling, is a stupid blunt instrument? If you've used it for any amount of time you'll know this. Sure, it's a great time-saver, and if you use it wisely it can remove a lot of tedium. But if you're a developer, one thing you'll know is that it cannot replace developers. You still need to structure your whole project yourself, figure out what the data sch…

To be fair the guy is speculating (n.b. suggest breaking that first chunk up, it's about a page and half in a single paragraph)

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by borlanco »

coolandsmartrr wrote: post #71
perihelions wrote: post #13

Also available here, https://nightbeatseu.ca/works/the-sad-bastard-cookbook/ https://traumbooks.itch.io/the-sad-bastard-cookbook - "We made it legal with Creative Commons (4.0 attribution non-commercial), but if you get a thrill from breaking the law, you can pretend it’s not."

I love the copyright description. Is this book full of humor like this?

I would say yes. They try hard to make cooks laugh.

This is one of their recipes:

  APOCALYPSE RAMEN

  This is basically like regular ramen soup but with three critical differences: 

  - It is intensely chaotic, which is to say that you can pretty much toss anything into it and say you did it on purpose.
  - It's slightly healthier, if your depression has lifted enough that you want to eat something other than delicious, delicious chemicals.
  - It involves a mason jar, so you can feel like you're riding out the end of days in true hipster style.

  Core Ingredients & Supplies: 

  - Mason jar or other heatproof receptacle.
  - Boiling water.
  - The only requirement here is rice noodles. Why? Because they cook fast.

  Preparation: 

  - Put all ingredients in the jar.
  - Boil some water.
  - Pour into jar to cover ingredients.
  - Shake it up a bit (not right away, otherwise you'll burn your hands and get more depressed).
  - Let it sit for a few minutes.
  - Enjoy???

  Variations: 

  - Remember those takeout packets of hot sauce and soy sauce? This is a good time to use them.
  - Frozen or fresh vegetables. Wilted is absolutely fine here. International readers may call them "wilty" vegetables. Reader, you are now bilingual.
  - Any kind of spices. We particularly suggest garlic or ginger powder, but seriously, anything will work.
  - If you have tofu or some other protein to use, go for it.

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by lwhi »

vsnf wrote: post #115
lwhi wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a logical reason for this. Our language was formed at a time where racism was more endemic. We now live in a society that endeavours to be less racist; but language hasn't caught up. .. what's your argument for not doing this?

You’re clearly passionate about this cause, and while I respect your dedication to equality I wish you’d find a different target to redirect your vigor towards. Policing my language is not a way to win friends, it’s a way to force your view on me. I find this offensive. A sibling commenter mentioned that you’re going to cause others to dig in their heels, and I agree with them. Your zealotry in demanding that I chang…

If you were paying attention you'd notice I called the same poster a coward, for the same reason each time.

I'm always astounded why people who are grievously offended—by being asked to be more considerate of people who have a harder time than them—are unable to justify their point of view.

Maybe it's because there's little reason other than wanting to be seen as correct?

Re: Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook

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Post by Symbiote »

mschuster91 wrote: post #97
imgabe wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon is the store. The manufacturer handles warranties. If your Samsung TV breaks you don’t complain to Wal-Mart, you complain to Samsung.

> If your Samsung TV breaks you don’t complain to Wal-Mart, you complain to Samsung. WTF, here in Germany (or rather Europe as a whole) it is the other way around for the mandatory 2 years - if something happens, you return the item where you bought it and the seller is completely responsible for dealing with everything, and on the hook for delivering you a working item. Only after these two years expire and you have…

Britain had and still has compatible laws, so I can link to a good summary in English for Americans etc:

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-...

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