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Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by methou »

Reubend wrote: post #3

While it's nice to have an open source client, please think twice about bypassing the premium subscription/ads to listen for free. Musician deserve to be paid for their work, and it's not fair to them to bypass all of the mechanisms to do that. Spotify doesn't pay musicians well, but there are still indie artists making a living from it nonetheless. I hear a lot of people these days complaining about ads, and that's…

Which would benefit them more? Buying CD or listening on Spotify?

I’m have a list of artist I want to pay back to:

- the Monty Python - Tom Lehrer - Arrogant Worms - “Weird Al” Yankovic - the Dead South

their work helped through different hard times.

With latest update Spotify’s Home is one scroll away from instagram story like short videos with a timer bar on it, trying to rush me with a decision on what to listen.

OP is the answer to my new routine on consuming music, after which I’ll need more direct ways to support the musicians than using using some Silicon Valley cooked poison.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by pg5 »

drewdevault wrote: post #26
Reubend wrote: post #3

While it's nice to have an open source client, please think twice about bypassing the premium subscription/ads to listen for free. Musician deserve to be paid for their work, and it's not fair to them to bypass all of the mechanisms to do that. Spotify doesn't pay musicians well, but there are still indie artists making a living from it nonetheless. I hear a lot of people these days complaining about ads, and that's…

Direct your passion for getting musicians paid to Spotify and the distribution system, not to this. If everyone who uses this software were to use Spotify direct, ads and all, in the long run it would make pennies for the artists at best. You're better off listening to music however you please and buying albums on Bandcamp to support the artists; a lifetime of spotify listening will make less money for an artist you…

I don't get how this is justification for individuals to pay artists zero with thus bypass. Indie musicians who grow to have 10-100k+ monthly streams are making a nice chunk of money from it.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by mlrtime »

__warlord__ wrote: post #30
vdaea wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People here all day defending p2p piracy but when you are taking the bandwidth from a multibillion, multinational corporation then you're the devil himself :'( :'( :'( :'(

I think the "hacker" part of "hacker news" doesn't mean much anymore.

The article is still link here, so I say the hacker part is very much alive.

That the comments aren't 100% all aligned is great, I come here for vigorous respectful debate. It helps me reflect on my position on topics.

What's the problem?

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by m-p-3 »

Reubend wrote: post #3

While it's nice to have an open source client, please think twice about bypassing the premium subscription/ads to listen for free. Musician deserve to be paid for their work, and it's not fair to them to bypass all of the mechanisms to do that. Spotify doesn't pay musicians well, but there are still indie artists making a living from it nonetheless. I hear a lot of people these days complaining about ads, and that's…

And not just that, bypassing restrictions put in place by Spotify, and where they make money from removing such restriction is a great way to get their attention and either receive a C&D or them adding further restrictions to break this bypass, making it a cat and mouse game.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by marcomourao »

lawgimenez wrote: post #127
marcomourao wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bandcamp is widely used all over the world. My band made 6 times more money from Bandcamp than from all the streaming sites combined. People from all over Europe, USA, Canada and Australia bought our music.

Europe, US, Canada and Australia is your whole world? Local metal guys I know is on Spotify and not on Bandcamp. I wonder what you think of that. I’m in Asia btw, largest continent of the world.

> Europe, US, Canada and Australia is your whole world?

Of course not.

> I’m in Asia btw, largest continent of the world.

Those were only a few examples from the top of my head. We also had sales in S. Korea and Japan.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by marcomourao »

apwell23 wrote: post #128
marcomourao wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My opinion is based on the stats Bandcamp provides me. Care to elaborate on why you proclaim otherwise?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39066807 curious how do ppl discover your band on bandcamp?

Through Bandcamp itself, social media, music blogs...

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by switch007 »

jstummbillig wrote: post #84
drewdevault wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Direct your passion for getting musicians paid to Spotify and the distribution system, not to this. If everyone who uses this software were to use Spotify direct, ads and all, in the long run it would make pennies for the artists at best. You're better off listening to music however you please and buying albums on Bandcamp to support the artists; a lifetime of spotify listening will make less money for an artist you…

> a lifetime of spotify listening will make less money for an artist you like than buying a single album from them on Bandcamp. This is false. And I mean, dramatically. > Even if you only listen to one artist, 8 hours per day, 365 days a year, they will earn a whopping... 100 bucks from Spotify. It's roughly 200$. Number of songs per hour: 60 minutes / 3 minutes per song = 20 songs Total listening hours per year: 8 h…

What's the median payout? i.e. is it skewed by some very high earning artists?

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by jwells89 »

denysvitali wrote: post #155
monsieurbanana wrote: post #4

For something that puts "not using electron" so prominently I didn't expect it using flutter. I admit I don't really have much experience with it, I thought it was like react-native (but better?), still far from truly native apps. Im here to being told I'm wrong. I would love to, specially since we can transpile clojure to dart

Flutter, from experience, works really well on Android. Unfortunately the same cannot be said about the web (see for example [1]). I think that if these performance issues were to be solved, Flutter would see a bigger adoption. In any case IMHO Flutter >>>>> Electron [1]: https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/56257

Last I knew it had significant performance issues on iOS (framerate drops/stutters), which dampens its cross platform appeal somewhat and is part of why I’ve heard of apps using Flutter for the Android port of their app, but nowhere else.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by etaweb »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #125
drewdevault wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've spent thousands of dollars on Bandcamp over the past several years, attended many live shows, bought merchandise, etc. Suggesting that one is "pretending" to do these things when making this argument is a hell of a strawman. I feel like pretending that you're supporting your favorite artists by listening them on Spotify is a bit more of an appropriate comparison.

You're supporting the artists you listen to more uniformly (via spotify) though. If you and I listen to 1000 artists over the course of a year, and you spend $1000/year on album purchases (let's say $10 each) while I subscribe to spotify, I pay $90 a year while supporting all of the artists I listen to, loosely based on how much I listen to them, while you much more significantly support up to 100 of the artists you…

You say that it is better to pay 90$ for 1000$ worth of goods than to pay nothing. This is a false dilemma, there is a third choice that is paying only what you can afford. Paying only 9% of a physical good wouldn't make anyone less of a robber.

A lot of people here would rather blame those who steal better than they do, than question the industry that allows artists work to be sold off.

Furthermore, I would say that most people using Spotify and alike services do it only for convenience, but certainly not to "support the artists".

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by [deleted] »

anotheryou wrote: post #22
bayindirh wrote: post #2

Nifty. Please be aware that this is not a "spotify client" per se. It gets the data from Spotify, and plays the audio from YouTube. It's an interesting invention, and worthy of the first page, if you ask me.

oh ok... I'd have tried it, but I pay for good audio quality so I won't :)

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