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Overly aggressive denials of simple requests ("please use another word") just make me wonder why you are so upset about it? Blacklist/whitelist DO reinforce the notion that black = bad and white = good, so what's the deal with using a different word? I truly don't understand why people would get upset by simple requests like that.
Because requests like that are just the tip of the iceberg. I think it's a reasonable response to resist groups who are trying to aggressively effect cultural change in ways with which I disagree. And as the other commentor said, I won't complain about whatever terminology you use when you write or speak, but I expect the same respect in return.
Amazon has taken down the Sad Bastard Cookbook
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And then you have the ugly stuff; I remember reading a paper (cannot find it now, though) about fraud rigs through which people can buy fraudsters to promote their products and trash their competitors' products. With AI, that kind of stuff will surely accelerate.
People need to purchase products to leave reviews, so I doubt AI will run rampant any time soon for reviews.
On Amazon? That's not true - at least on Amazon UK it definitely isn't, just tried and it lets me write a review for a product I never bought without any problem.
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#83I understand the obsession with being on Amazon, but can we please normalize selling elsewhere? The internet is a vast expanse. Why do we think Amazon is the end all be all? I do not understand this.
I don't use amazon (although I cheat a bit because my wife sometimes does). But for books we use indigo.ca (in Canada) which has the same selection and is importantly not Amazon. Is there another national US online bookseller? For other stuff, I just go to the hardware store. The only real amazon thing I depend on is a kind of micro-fibre wipes I use for my glasses. It's actually mostly happened organically since ama…
I'm doing something similar. Amazon is Russian propaganda stupid these days and I don't hate myself enough to use it much.
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All the customers are there and the company has perhaps spent more time than any other figuring out how to sell books to people. They're better at it than everyone else.
Not all the customers. I actively avoid Amazon since quite a few years back. There are literally dozens of us!
I was up early one day getting coffee, and saw that one of the book stores in my neighborhood had a line of about 30 people of all ages outside waiting for it to open.
I figured it was an event, and had nothing else to do, so I got in line, too. When the doors opened, they all scattered to different parts of the store. So, no author signing or music release. Just people who like books.
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Fair enough, I do see your point .. I just figure there are a lot of small things we can all do that cost virtually nothing that can help make the world a bit more equitable.
I see yours (from another post) too. I'll try to stick to drab, grey language in formal communication. After all, "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down", and I've got no desire to paint a target on my back. Out of curiosity, how would we reword the verb form? Eg "Language whitewashing squicks me out"
Why would you need to? .. it relates to the act of washing white paint over something.
There's no logical reason for a negative list to be known as a 'blacklist' as far as I can tell?
Ultimately, I don't think adjusting language is more dull or drab that using the term blacklist.
But no one likes being corrected, and no one likes being told what to do. I get that .. but I honestly didn't mean to cause offence to you.
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Maybe in the USA, but over here, many book stores are a lot better at selling books (both on- and offline) than Amazon
I read a lot of books. It's pretty much my main source of entertainment. Nobody else came up with something like Kindle Unlimited where you pay a flat fee and read as much as you want instantly. There's entire genres that only exist on amazon that will never appear in a bookstore.
In my areas we have puli libraries with interlinear loan. Being able to read for pleasure is a wonderful luxury!
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I don't use amazon (although I cheat a bit because my wife sometimes does). But for books we use indigo.ca (in Canada) which has the same selection and is importantly not Amazon. Is there another national US online bookseller? For other stuff, I just go to the hardware store. The only real amazon thing I depend on is a kind of micro-fibre wipes I use for my glasses. It's actually mostly happened organically since ama…
I'm doing something similar. Amazon is Russian propaganda stupid these days and I don't hate myself enough to use it much.
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How does Amazon handle warranties, especially in a year or two? Pray tell.
Amazon is the store. The manufacturer handles warranties. If your Samsung TV breaks you don’t complain to Wal-Mart, you complain to Samsung.
Walmart has return merchandising agreements with suppliers.
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Overly aggressive denials of simple requests ("please use another word") just make me wonder why you are so upset about it? Blacklist/whitelist DO reinforce the notion that black = bad and white = good, so what's the deal with using a different word? I truly don't understand why people would get upset by simple requests like that.
Because requests like that are just the tip of the iceberg. I think it's a reasonable response to resist groups who are trying to aggressively effect cultural change in ways with which I disagree. And as the other commentor said, I won't complain about whatever terminology you use when you write or speak, but I expect the same respect in return.
You'll hide behind a throwaway account though.
If you disagree with making the world a better place in small ways that don't actually affect you, I have no time for you.
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Who actually actively thinks about skin colour when they use a word with a colour in it? Terms like "white lie", "white label", "white flag", "white whale", "whiteout", "blackmail", "black ice", "Black Friday", "black humour", "blackout", "in the black". At least I've never seen one of those words and thought to myself "hey, like the colour of someone's skin!" Not that skin colours are white or black. They're really…
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