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> By reading the rest of my comment. I did. You made a silly assumption that all artists put their music up on bandcamp. No one even knows what bandcamp is my area.
Bandcamp is available in more markets than Spotify. Not sure how that's relevant to my argument, though.
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> a lifetime of spotify listening will make less money for an artist you like than buying a single album from them on Bandcamp. This is false. And I mean, dramatically. > Even if you only listen to one artist, 8 hours per day, 365 days a year, they will earn a whopping... 100 bucks from Spotify. It's roughly 200$. Number of songs per hour: 60 minutes / 3 minutes per song = 20 songs Total listening hours per year: 8 h…
You and I did the same back-of-the-napkin math and arrived at slightly different numbers; I used a 5 minute average song duration and $0.003 average payout. See my other comments for elaboration on why the Bandcamp model is ultimately better for the artist. I don't deny that Spotify has improved the situation for many artists, but rather that it hasn't done enough and other approaches do it better , and I believe thi…
Let's just skip the part, where we imply it's somehow okay to circumvent fair use, because nobody is making money off of streaming anyway or any such nonsense. Streaming as intended is fine for now. People can just use Spotify, or any of the alternatives, as they are intended and that's fine and on the whole better than anything we had before.
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> attended many live shows, bought merchandise, etc. I don't understand what does attending live shows have to do with how you listen to their music. Ppl who do listen on spotify also do that.
Live shows are generally the largest source of revenue for musicians.
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If you care about the artist here pay them directly either through bandcamp, by going to the physical shows and buying merch, ordering physical copies of their music at the label, patreon, or whatever form of direct support they have set up. Spotify is just leeching of the culture and as drew pointed out you will be 10000 times more effective if you use one of those options. Spotify is more or less just a signal boos…
> If you care about the artist here pay them directly either through bandcamp Not everyone is on bandcamp. Seems like some sort of north american website.
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> If you care about the artist here pay them directly either through bandcamp Not everyone is on bandcamp. Seems like some sort of north american website.
Bandcamp is widely used all over the world. My band made 6 times more money from Bandcamp than from all the streaming sites combined. People from all over Europe, USA, Canada and Australia bought our music.
Not really.
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>How exactly do you do this By reading the rest of my comment. >What a dishonest comment to support stealing. Copying is not theft.
> By reading the rest of my comment. I did. You made a silly assumption that all artists put their music up on bandcamp. No one even knows what bandcamp is my area.
For the parent comment, it’s better to support artists on whichever platform they want to be in, because parent comment feels like he has an axe to grind on Spotify.
While it's nice to have an open source client, please think twice about bypassing the premium subscription/ads to listen for free. Musician deserve to be paid for their work, and it's not fair to them to bypass all of the mechanisms to do that. Spotify doesn't pay musicians well, but there are still indie artists making a living from it nonetheless. I hear a lot of people these days complaining about ads, and that's…
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>How exactly do you do this By reading the rest of my comment. >What a dishonest comment to support stealing. Copying is not theft.
> By reading the rest of my comment. I did. You made a silly assumption that all artists put their music up on bandcamp. No one even knows what bandcamp is my area.
I legitimately don't get it.
I don't necessarily believe that Spotify is necessarily worse as a way to make money from their music (I think ad-supported and subscription "bundling" services such as Youtube and Spotify probably result in more money going to artists than all the options for purchasing artists' music piecemeal, like Bandcamp), but artists should definitely make their music available somewhere for fans to purchase regardless
Substitute Bandcamp with Google/Apple music or whatever, the point remains, one can use Spotube and choose to support artists buy paying for their music.
I don't think most people are actually doing this though..
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I don't know the numbers. What I was trying to point out that there's no nefariousness going on.
No, you weren't just pointing that out. You claimed that it is "arguably still providing income for the musicians". How is it arguably providing income for tyhe artists given the app is obviously not playing ads?
Third, I didn’t say definitely, but arguably. I might be wrong, but I’m not endorsing anything here.
Lastly, I’m an ex-musician, too and prefer to pay for premium and buy proper albums when I can.
So pointing fingers doesn’t do any favor to anyone.
Have a nice day.
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Stealing content is not the type of rule breaking that phreaking was about.
phreaking was literally theft lol
Right? People get so attached to their political views that they dont even notice it.
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