Fujitsu bugs that sent innocent people to prison were known "from the start"
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#3All the PO lawyers rewriting witness statements must go to jail. All the prosecutors must go to jail for negligence and malpractice.
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#4All the PO lawyers rewriting witness statements must go to jail. All the prosecutors must go to jail for negligence and malpractice.
100% Agree...prison time, public excoriation and significant financial penalties.
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#5given how much a prior conviction makes employment difficult here in the US, how would you quantify financial impact not just of the time served, but also the reputational impact it has on your income.
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#6All the PO lawyers rewriting witness statements must go to jail. All the prosecutors must go to jail for negligence and malpractice.
In china they have a saying "A punishment milder than death would not sufficiently assuage public indignation"
https://www.tiktok.com/@chinesedemystified/video/71123116513...
I only post this as a fascinating example of how different Western and Chinese perspectives can be. Not that these people would be killed in China, or that it would be justice if they were- but we don't even have this in our vocabulary!
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#7Bugs are inevitable. The real issue is with the post office management that prosecuted people they knew there was a good chance were innocent, withheld evidence, falsified evidence, and harassed journalists investigating.
What really bothers me is that the CEO of the Organisation at the time was also a Christian priest/deacon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Vennells
> witness statements from Fujitsu staff due to be heard in court were then edited by the Post Office as it sought to maintain the line that the system was working well as it pursued innocent people through the courts.
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#8given how much a prior conviction makes employment difficult here in the US, how would you quantify financial impact not just of the time served, but also the reputational impact it has on your income.
you pick a really big number, and 10x it. it's all part of the negotiating. let a jury decide the final number. some people will tell you some formula about salary at the time, calculating anticipated increases in salary of that time, blah blah. screw a bunch of that. make it hurt.
however, isn't this a UK issue?
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#9All the PO lawyers rewriting witness statements must go to jail. All the prosecutors must go to jail for negligence and malpractice.
Odd that so often here on HN we talk about how prisons don't work, don't deter crime, don't rehabilitate... yet whenever some CEO or high level official is caught in malfeasance, we insist that "sending them to jail" is the only proper response.
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#10I've been listening to this podcast about it. Very messed up how these sub-postmasters were treated.
https://open.spotify.com/show/6BL7LWzXRdmwa0JVXOChQL?si=51p1...