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Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by tonymet »

sph wrote: post #74
tonymet wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your observations are right but your conclusions are shoddy . We can and should separate ideas from the person . There are plenty of truly evil people though . No indictment of Hans I don’t know his case . But of truly evil people there are countless numbers

I disagree, but this is personal philosophy I do not feel comfortable going too deep with on an Internet forum. From my point of view, people that are born with evil streak are vanishingly rare , as much as being born with two heads. What happens later is simply a product of nurture, upbringing, context, and chemical imbalances. Pure black and pure white do not exist in nature.

A 27-year-old Queens man is in custody for two subway stabbings on Wednesday -- at Columbus Circle and in the Bronx.

The suspect was spotted in the Bedford Park station in the Bronx at 7:20 a.m. Thursday, and after a brief chase, was taken into custody. He was in possession of two knives at the time of the arrest.

He has multiple prior arrests, including five in the last 12 months for charges ranging from assault to sex crimes.

Not evil ?

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by beaeglebeached »

pfisherman wrote: post #401

I grew up down the street from Hans. I did not know him well, as he was the age of my older brother. I remember they worked on a couple of teenage electrical engineering projects together. Some of the filtered down to me. Hans was autistic and had the mind blindness thing going on, which sometimes made social interaction difficult for him. I think that most of my family did not want to believe that he killed his wife…

I struggle to think what should be done when someone is dragging your children away to Russia faster than the courts can stop.

Obviously not murder, but the desperation must have been a pit of despair. The children are about 20 now (draft age) and were in Russia shortly after the case. They may very well have ended up as trench soup in Donetsk or something by now thanks to the wife's psychopathic branch of the family.

Reiser tried, albeit in probably the wrong way.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by caeril »

jonathankoren wrote: post #42
dale_glass wrote: post #17

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He was far less of a mastermind than he fancied himself at the time. If I recall, he bought a book on murder investigations and a socket set after his wife's disappearance (which was easily tracked back to him), removed car seats (blood) from his car, and willingly testified in court that it was his manly dream to sleep in the car, or something along these lines. He could have likely gotten away with it if he kept hi…

I will always remember the Slashdot comment that said that removing the passenger seat of your car so you could sleep in your car was a reasonable thing to do, and everyone saying it was suspicious was a hater. (Bro. A car floor isn’t even flat.) I think it was my first experience with absolute egregious fanboism.

It wasn't fanboism, it was something else entirely: solidarity of the ingroup.

Hard to believe for the younger folks around here, who grew up in a culture that praised and valued technical skills, but Slashdot was a place for the prior generation, for whom technical skills were mocked and ridiculed.

Hans was "one of us", and it's a very human thing to believe that a member of your specific outcast group would ever be one of the baddies.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by graemep »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #402
graemep wrote: post #221

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Lots of people who do good work have done awful things. I love Oscar Wilde's plays, but he was a paedophile sex tourist. Eric Gill created beautiful stuff, including typefaces most of us probably use or read fairly often, and he sexual abused his children and his dog.

> paedophile sex tourist Did you lift that quote from here? https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199899/cmhansrd/vo99... > Oscar Wilde was a paedophile and a sex tourist. I Googled for: was Oscar Wilde a pedophile? There is lots of debate. Not so straight forward.

No, not seen that. Multiple articles and I read some letters etc by Wilde, Gide and others years ago.

Some defences either ignore the key evidence - for example the first I found was this which just looks at his attraction to adult young men, and ignores his attraction to teenagers: https://www.makingqueerhistory.com/articles/2016/12/20/the-t...

The others base their case on distinguishing between a paedophile and an ephebophile. It may well be true, but the latter is still a criminal offence in most countries (albeit lesser in some countries). Combined with travel and prostitution it is still pretty horrible behaviour.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by anthk »

shzhdbi09gv8ioi wrote: post #405
anthk wrote: post #400

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Hinduism it's pretty much alive, and Christianity it's just a fork of Judaism. When Cristianity didn't even exist, the Chinese already had a good chunk of philosophy perfectly set and written, and even modernish rules for war and diplomacy: Tao Te King, and The Art of War. Heck, America from Canada to the Patagonia didn't even know about Jesus until the Europeans arrived 1500 years later. 1500s damn years. For a huge…

>> It's not relevant since those religions are no longer practiced. >> Christianity is, and is still influencing our world, like I wrote above. > Hinduism it's pretty much alive, and Christianity it's just a fork of Judaism Okay, so you're a hindu or a jew. Are you arguing my point about christianity influencing "our" world? I guess I expressed myself rather western-centric.

I am not neither a hindu or jew. Christianism in Europe is larguely cultural, our values shifted a lot since the Enlightenment times. The US, not much, they have a large sense of prudeness which affected even policitically left leaned people.

I mean, here people it's Christian by name only. Technically, even the Southern Spain with infamous street parades with large walks carrying a big structure with a Virgin, most of that it's just a showoff and a way to say "look how loaded we are, so much that we can build great golden clothes for our Virgin".

If any, lots of lore in Europe it's just paganism with a Christian disguise.

Even Christianism itself it's so-so Christian-wannabe unlike the original one which came from the Middle East; it was largely repurposed with Greek values so people here could assimilate better these alien customs such as not being able to eat pork or nonsense about alcohol when the risk of dehidrating in Europe was near nil.

Kinda like North Korea with Communism. Marxist? Today, in name, maybe. Because Juche it's almost a copycat of right wing fascism with Asian features. Kinda like the Japanese one, but with Koreans.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by bazoom42 »

beaeglebeached wrote: post #412
pfisherman wrote: post #401

I grew up down the street from Hans. I did not know him well, as he was the age of my older brother. I remember they worked on a couple of teenage electrical engineering projects together. Some of the filtered down to me. Hans was autistic and had the mind blindness thing going on, which sometimes made social interaction difficult for him. I think that most of my family did not want to believe that he killed his wife…

I struggle to think what should be done when someone is dragging your children away to Russia faster than the courts can stop. Obviously not murder, but the desperation must have been a pit of despair. The children are about 20 now (draft age) and were in Russia shortly after the case. They may very well have ended up as trench soup in Donetsk or something by now thanks to the wife's psychopathic branch of the family…

probably the wrong way?

Some of these comment are sickening.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by hitekker »

pfisherman wrote: post #401

I grew up down the street from Hans. I did not know him well, as he was the age of my older brother. I remember they worked on a couple of teenage electrical engineering projects together. Some of the filtered down to me. Hans was autistic and had the mind blindness thing going on, which sometimes made social interaction difficult for him. I think that most of my family did not want to believe that he killed his wife…

Hans Reiser was convicted of first degree murder. It was premeditated, not a crime of passion. He ruthlessly planned it and executed the murder of his wife. Only because of a plea deal was he sentenced to a second degree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_United_States_law#De...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser

The article also says that he wasn't diagnosed as autistic. It's interesting seeing how eager folks are to share their excuses and lies. Some don't want to see evil or fear it. A few appear to identify with this murderer.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by bazoom42 »

pfisherman wrote: post #401

I grew up down the street from Hans. I did not know him well, as he was the age of my older brother. I remember they worked on a couple of teenage electrical engineering projects together. Some of the filtered down to me. Hans was autistic and had the mind blindness thing going on, which sometimes made social interaction difficult for him. I think that most of my family did not want to believe that he killed his wife…

> He was not mean, evil, or a bully or anything

He killed his childrens mother. If those words have any meaning it was mean and evil.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by beaeglebeached »

bazoom42 wrote: post #416
beaeglebeached wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I struggle to think what should be done when someone is dragging your children away to Russia faster than the courts can stop. Obviously not murder, but the desperation must have been a pit of despair. The children are about 20 now (draft age) and were in Russia shortly after the case. They may very well have ended up as trench soup in Donetsk or something by now thanks to the wife's psychopathic branch of the family…

probably the wrong way? Some of these comment are sickening.

I say probably because I'm not familiar enough with certainty of the situation to know if this was the only real opportunity Hans had to try to stop the children being taken to be sacrificed to the dice of the Russian legal system and ultimately to be exposed to the child harvesting cannon fodder regime of Putin.

He probably had other options to try, but I'm not sure what they were. I'd feel much safer with him on the street than his psychopathic family court judge.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by nailer »

pvg wrote: post #149
scotty79 wrote: post #132

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Why didn't he take it? It's pretty much the best what murderer on trial can hope for. ... then again, if he was reasonable he'd probably never commit murder.

You can get the details from the contemporary coverage linked in the sibling comments but it seemed like he felt he'd go to trial and be acquitted. If I had to guess, having to admit he'd been lying to everyone through the whole process was probably also a factor - the deal was something like plead to a manslaughter charge and reveal the location of the victim's body.

> If I had to guess, having to admit he'd been lying to everyone through the whole process was probably also a factor - the deal was something like plead to a manslaughter charge and reveal the location of the victim's body.

I fully believe there is a layer of Reiser that was convinced he did not murder his wife.

I didn't realise this when I was younger, but I'm pretty sure everybody lies to themselves. Like not about grey issues, but simple cases of black and white.

Yes, even most people reading this lie to themselves about facts. We might not be murderers, but we do.

I have an important conversation once where I told someone what they'd done wrong, and how to make things better, in a very mature way. I *remember this conversation.

Years later I took a drug that is known for causing an 'ego-death' and realised what actually happened was that I was angry and tried to hurt the person as much as possible with my words. There's a book on this topic called "Night of the Gun".

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