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Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by dpkonofa »

lukev wrote: post #191

A lot of people in the comments here complaining about the price, but honestly it makes a ton of sense to me. Apple isn't positioning this as a peripheral or secondary computing device. They are staking the claim (via price and otherwise) that this is a whole computer that you should use for Very Serious Productivity. Whereas the iPad (for example) was always kind of assumed to be a secondary/casual computing device,…

I mostly agree. I think it's a bit much for a first-get device that hasn't proved itself out yet but I have enough experience with first-gen Apple products that I know this will easily lead to being a jumping off point for me to make a decent amount using this as a tool. If it breaks even for me, it'll be worth it for the head start I'll have over others who will just be getting into the ecosystem with later, cheaper versions.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by dpkonofa »

rchaud wrote: post #230
lukev wrote: post #191

A lot of people in the comments here complaining about the price, but honestly it makes a ton of sense to me. Apple isn't positioning this as a peripheral or secondary computing device. They are staking the claim (via price and otherwise) that this is a whole computer that you should use for Very Serious Productivity. Whereas the iPad (for example) was always kind of assumed to be a secondary/casual computing device,…

Nah, I don't see that. Apple delivers the same spiel about the iPad Pro and its AR-capable cameras. Not one person uses the iPad Pro for that, they just want the bigger screen.

I am a person who uses the AR-capable cameras on an iPad Pro. You are wrong.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by jksflkjl3jk3 »

plagiarist wrote: post #111
jksflkjl3jk3 wrote: post #60

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XReal Air are pretty good for that purpose. I can just plug them into my laptop or any phone that supports DisplayPort over USB-C and mirror my full screen. The clarity is good enough for dev work, but my eyes feel a little strained after a few hours of use. I'm curious whether Apple's product will be more comfortable for longer use.

I was considering those. Is there some sort of accelerometer in there so the screen moves in your field of vision as you turn your head, or does it just kinda float there? I haven't been able to understand that from their product pages.

I believe that's the functionality added by the "Beam" adapter (which I haven't tried).

The glasses on their own just display a static "dumb" display that doesn't respond to one's movement.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by ghaff »

scarface_74 wrote: post #187
ynniv wrote: post #14

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No wireless? Less space than a Nomad? Lame Historically, reviews of Apple products based on their specs have aged poorly.

I got one better https://512pixels.net/2009/01/early-macintosh-reviews-show-d... John Dvorak > Apple makes the arrogant assumption of thinking that it knows what you want and need. It, unfortunately, leaves the “why” out of the equation — as in “why would I want this?” The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things. I dont want one of the…

Given that at least 2 companies (including Microsoft) were already shipping mice for IBM PCs by 1984, and there were various pointing devices on engineering workstations, it seems like Dvorak was mostly just in his controversial mode.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by anonred »

noelrock wrote: post #181

Too many people seem to be confusing prior product critical commentary being invalid with all product critical commentary being invalid. Apple Vision Pro won't do much as a product - it'll struggle for even minimal adaption and will be eventually all but withdrawn within 24 months. The patents etc may eventually lead to a compelling product. But I'd be very confident I could look back at this comment and be proven co…

Would you be willing to bet a token amount, say the current base cost of a Vision Pro ($3500), that in 48 months (giving you some buffer here) Apple has fully withdrawn support for the Vision line and does not release a new model? That’s the real test of confidence. I personally think you’re way off the mark and am willing to put money on the line. Are you?

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by dpkonofa »

hu3 wrote: post #199
ozten wrote: post #148

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This is the cheapest and most polished dev kit ever. Compare it to the Playstation 1 dev kit. In 1994 dollars it cost $15,000 for a full devkit. [1] https://www.retroreversing.com/official-playStation-devkit

A better comparison would be 2024 Quest dev kit which costs less than half of Vision.

Except that wouldn't be a first-gen product and doesn't have the same capabilities so no... that wouldn't be a better comparison. Does a Quest Dev Kit even exist in 2024? I thought you just buy the headset now?

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by dpkonofa »

bvoq wrote: post #162

I would like to buy one for my company without prescription glasses. For employees with vision impairment, contact lenses are the preferred option. Do contact lenses work with the apple vision pro? Does anyone know this?

Yes. I wear contacts and the fit process during the pre-order confirmed that I do not need anything special to use the Vision Pro with contact lenses.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by dpkonofa »

giarc wrote: post #126

I suspect they will sell a ton. For the most part, people scoffed at inflation and just kept spending. Unemployment is still super low and wages are rising. Reports seem to indicate people still have money saved from the pandemic (eg. travel is still super high) so I think people won't hesitate to spend $3500 on what could be a ground breaking piece of equipment (even if you don't think it is now).

I'm using it for business and the justification was easy, especially with the Apple Card financing. It's kind of a no-brainer, especially if I can sell it for a reasonable amount when the new one comes out. I don't think I've ever sold an Apple product for less than half of what I paid for it. Most of them actually resell really well. I wonder if this will be the same.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by [deleted] »

dpkonofa wrote: post #217
TotoHorner wrote: post #50

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What? No, they're calling it a spatial computer because they don't want it to be lumped in the same category as the other VR devices. Because... theirs is $3500 while other VR devices are $400. They literally just built a VR headset... do you seriously not think the Apple Vision Pro is a VR headset?

At the very least it's a VR and AR headset so no, it's not just a VR headset. And, considering Apple's track record on stuff like this, it's probably more accurate to call it a spatial computer since spatial awareness while using it can be adjusted on the fly. You can't do that with any VR headset right now.

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