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So I just ordered a maxed out one. I wrote the firmware/OS for the prototype when it was a lot less polished and being demo’s to EVPs, so it’s going to be cool to see how far it’s come :)
How long ago was that?
The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…
The iPad was arguably rather a pre-1.0 version when it came out. And I must say I rarely use mine around the house. I'm admittedly not a kid that writes papers on an iPhone and doesn't even want a laptop but it's just much easier to use a laptop for searching/writing/etc. Doing much less travel than pre-COVID, I'm not even sure I'll replace my iPad when it goes out of support. A MacBook Air and Kindle combo does most…
I suspect they will sell a ton. For the most part, people scoffed at inflation and just kept spending. Unemployment is still super low and wages are rising. Reports seem to indicate people still have money saved from the pandemic (eg. travel is still super high) so I think people won't hesitate to spend $3500 on what could be a ground breaking piece of equipment (even if you don't think it is now).
*Unemployment
The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…
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I think they are in part counting on it as a status symbol. iPhone, iPad, and a few others are ubiquitous in the US market. Additonally, they kinda "blend in" amidst competitor devices with similar designs. But the Vision Pro will be eye- catching and hard to miss, with a large profile and unique design. Time will tell if it works.
Going straight for the high end of the market is risky when you depend on developer ecosystems for value. The iPhone was expensive at launch but didn’t really take off until it added the App Store and came down in price. If they get a handful of celebrities walking around with these things it may become a status symbol. Or it may become a joke, especially if somebody crashes their Ferrari while wearing one.
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Fennec (Mozilla Firefox for Mobile) was already a thing before iPhone was released. The distortion here is that capacitive touch took on with iPhone release. Which lead to a surge of websites supporting such (albeit usually optimized for iPhone/iOS + Safari).
No mainstream phone launched with Fennec. Safari on iPhone was a game changer when everyone else was used to WAP browsing which was all scaled down, text-based web pages.
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Early reports are that the Vision feels quite heavy to wear. That’s almost certainly going to make it a bad choice for virtual screens for more than an hour or so.
From what I can tell it is about the same weight as the Valve Index which I have been able to wear for a fairly extended period of time while doing physical activities. If I can wear that while being physical I can probably handle the Vision Pro for extended periods.
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Early reports are that the Vision feels quite heavy to wear. That’s almost certainly going to make it a bad choice for virtual screens for more than an hour or so.
There is a variable there in that there's an optional over-the-top strap included in the retail package, but many of the people who previewed it either chose not to use it or weren't offered it. MKBHD for example emphasized how heavy it feels, but he wasn't using the top strap. https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1747367564093624348
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It has a built-in browser app though, right? So that might mean you don't need so many Mac-hosted screens.
I was thinking about that, and that is true when one of the monitors is generally Safari. The question will be can I easily copy something from Safari on the Vision Pro to my Mac for example? Or move the mouse from my Mac Display (which will likely just be the trackpad of my laptop on my lap) to that Safari and use it that way. It would need to operate as an extension of my Mac for it to be useful in this scenario.
A lot of people in the comments here complaining about the price, but honestly it makes a ton of sense to me. Apple isn't positioning this as a peripheral or secondary computing device. They are staking the claim (via price and otherwise) that this is a whole computer that you should use for Very Serious Productivity. Whereas the iPad (for example) was always kind of assumed to be a secondary/casual computing device,…