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Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:14 PM UTC

chomp wrote: post #67

tiffanyh wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. I remember history a bit differently. I recall lots of people dismissing the iPad as " just a big iPod Touch".

Haha you’re not lying https://m.slashdot.org/story/133608 > Since the iPad's initial introduction back in January, many of us still wonder why we should drop hundreds of dollars for what is termed as a large iPod.

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Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by sp332 » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:14 PM UTC

giarc wrote: post #126

I suspect they will sell a ton. For the most part, people scoffed at inflation and just kept spending. Unemployment is still super low and wages are rising. Reports seem to indicate people still have money saved from the pandemic (eg. travel is still super high) so I think people won't hesitate to spend $3500 on what could be a ground breaking piece of equipment (even if you don't think it is now).

*Unemployment

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by globular-toast » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:14 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #36

pavlov wrote: post #9

The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…

> When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. I remember history a bit differently. I recall lots of people dismissing the iPad as " just a big iPod Touch".

Also they said the name sounded like a sanitary product.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by iddqd » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:14 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #36

pavlov wrote: post #9

The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…

> When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. I remember history a bit differently. I recall lots of people dismissing the iPad as " just a big iPod Touch".

To be fair, it kind off started off as a large iPod Touch. It took a few years for iPad to really differentiate itself from iOS devices.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by throwbigdata » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:15 PM UTC

Yawn.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by andsoitis » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:15 PM UTC

thrownawaysz wrote: post #107

I'll never understand the pricing of expensive tech stuff (well expensive for me). Still a lot of people will buy it so why 3499, 3699, 3899? Why not 3999, 4199, 4399? Surely if you have the money you would buy it either way.

> Still a lot of people will buy it so why 3499, 3699, 3899? Why not 3999, 4199, 4399? Surely if you have the money you would buy it either way.

Pricing is partly art. Pricing is about choosing a number that you think the market (and the market size you're after) will bear. Pricing can signal status; it can signal "this is for you" (e.g. when inexpensive). Pricing is psychological - that's why you see 9.95 instead of 10, that could be one of the reasons why the Vision Pro is not in the $4000 range because that is in a different level psychologically.

etc.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by Hamuko » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:15 PM UTC

lobsterthief wrote: post #101

Hamuko wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also ran iOS without really much adaptation for the form factor. Now it's called "iPadOS" and has functionality that differentiates it from an iPhone. You can even dual screen the thing if you're a weirdo.

I love using it as a second screen when I’m out at a coffee shop. It works so seamlessly and I can throw Slack on there while I code, without looking like a complete weirdo

For clarity, by "dual screen", I mean this: https://www.macstories.net/stories/stage-manager-external-di...

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by miiiiiike » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:15 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #9

The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…

The argument falls apart when you remember that more than one person outside of RIM owned a BlackBerry. Who has a Quest? Also? Who had a BlackBerry? Just the people who had a reason to own a BlackBerry. Everyone else just waited for the iPhone to exist.

This isn’t the iPad release, it’s the Apple Watch release. It’s a flag-planting, limited capability, system for early adopters that’s meant to be a ramp to a more practical v2.

I don’t think most people will have a use for the Vision Pro, but, for the people that do, it’s in a different league from what’s currently available.

The mass market iPad/iPod Touch version of the Vision will be out in a few years.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by prmoustache » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:16 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #9

The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…

There is no reason this first iteration would not sell out. There are enough people with more money than sense or wishing to have an additional status symbol to sell it regardless of its qualities and defaults.

The question is will it have enough appeal for the technology to trickle down to more affordable devices that the general population is willing to actually buy? And will it happen before we can implant chips directly into our brain? So far VR has occupied nothing less but a niche market.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by andsoitis » Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 2:16 PM UTC

TotoHorner wrote: post #19

arjonagelhout wrote: post #11

I’m curious how well this could work for using it as a portable multi-monitor setup. If that works well in combination with my MacBook, I’ll buy it in a heartbeat. Imagine just sitting anywhere, but immediately having 3 large vertical screens with code and documentation.

I use the Quest 3 for this and it works really well (I have a m1 mbp). I use the Immersed app and I'm able to code for 3-4 hours a day with the headset.

What do you wish was better?