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Re: Microsoft limits institutional cloud storage space for environmental reasons

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Honestly I don't feel the sacrifice. My house is flooded with old chargers. They're in a bin like old legos. The e-waste related to including chargers in the box is a real thing. That change also allowed them to halve the size of the boxes, effectively doubling the shipping yield. On a billion-device level that's a non-trivial change. And yes, it's good for their bottom line. And yes, it effectively increased the pri…

I think for "power users" or people who buy/receive devices often, it's easy to have way too many chargers. A lot of other people buy a new phone every 3-5 years, and by that point, your cables are probably worn out and your charger might even be broken and some of them lost. Older chargers also operate at a much lower wattage, and with batteries getting bigger, charging time will be dramatically longer for people st…

>> and by that point, your cables are probably worn out

Apple(and everyone else, as far as I know) includes the cable though. And it's hard to wear out a power brick that just sits plugged into a socket all day.

>>assuming they're even compatible, since not everything used USB3 a few years ago

Apple chargers were always just AC to USB-A though, so all you need to change is the cable. Which....comes included with the device. It's a bit more of an issue if it's now a USB-C to USB-C cable, but a USB-A to USB-C cable is not exactly expensive.

Re: Microsoft limits institutional cloud storage space for environmental reasons

#32
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Apple cut the phone charger for environmental reasons too. It always has to be the end user who sacrifices for the environment.

> user who sacrifices for the environment.

It is saying like why should IC engine performance always suffer because for fuel efficiency.

Ultimately the supposed and alleged environmental harm *always* in every single case is a result of human consumption so some human has to suffer for these allegedly environmental moves if not the person buying iPhone then the Apple employee or Apple Shareholder or average tax payer.

Re: Microsoft limits institutional cloud storage space for environmental reasons

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Apple cut the phone charger for environmental reasons too. It always has to be the end user who sacrifices for the environment.

Honestly I don't feel the sacrifice. My house is flooded with old chargers. They're in a bin like old legos. The e-waste related to including chargers in the box is a real thing. That change also allowed them to halve the size of the boxes, effectively doubling the shipping yield. On a billion-device level that's a non-trivial change. And yes, it's good for their bottom line. And yes, it effectively increased the pri…

> Sucks for me, yes. So what?

Keep living with attitude like that, eventually you’ll realize.

Re: Microsoft limits institutional cloud storage space for environmental reasons

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I don't feel the sacrifice. My house is flooded with old chargers. They're in a bin like old legos. The e-waste related to including chargers in the box is a real thing. That change also allowed them to halve the size of the boxes, effectively doubling the shipping yield. On a billion-device level that's a non-trivial change. And yes, it's good for their bottom line. And yes, it effectively increased the pri…

I think for "power users" or people who buy/receive devices often, it's easy to have way too many chargers. A lot of other people buy a new phone every 3-5 years, and by that point, your cables are probably worn out and your charger might even be broken and some of them lost. Older chargers also operate at a much lower wattage, and with batteries getting bigger, charging time will be dramatically longer for people st…

Hm, you got me thinking about my parents, who still use the cube chargers for their newer iphones. So you do make a good point there.

For me, gallium nitride have changed the charger game for me and I refuse to use stock apple chargers on account of their ungainly largeness.

Charging a macbook with a tiny charger is so satisfying.

Re: Microsoft limits institutional cloud storage space for environmental reasons

#36
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Is that the same Microsoft which is throwing money into running environmentally destructive AI workloads as their key business driver?

HN: AI is all clean energy from the clouds. Crypto uses coal and toxic waste for power. /s

Re: Microsoft limits institutional cloud storage space for environmental reasons

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Just a philosophical question, that I think is on topic, I wonder how many cloud services will have to give people unpleasant experiences for those same people to stop going all in on cloud services, especially in the era of we reserve the right to change the terms and conditions without notice at our discretion At this point I’m not even mad with Microsoft

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