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VMware Kills Off 56 Products

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Re: VMware Kills Off 56 Products

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is also Hyper-V and Virtual Machine Manager and Azure Stack that might be an alternative for companies that ran Windows on their vSphere environment. I've seen Windows shops already switch to that because the licensing a lot cheaper. There's also Nutanix, RedHat and other options that people have mentioned here.

> RedHat Unfortunately post-IBM aquisition, Red Hat's closest equivalent (RHEV) was killed off. You've got OpenStack and k8s VMs now, neither of which are really what people running VMWare are looking for I suspect.

Funny part is IBM is one of the largest users of VMWare and IBM cloud is based on Ubuntu .

Re: VMware Kills Off 56 Products

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Am I misunderstanding, there is a bunch of vSphere offerings on the list there, but surely they must still sell vSphere in some form to enterprises? Isn't it still common to find as a significant part of most on-premise deployments?

Most but not all vSphere SKUs are listed. Instead of having 30 different vSphere "products" they'll have a handful and do price differentiation in different ways.

Given that it's broadcom it's safe to assume that this won't be a good thing for vSphere customers, but VMWare's vSphere product line was pretty batshit insane and consolidating it seems sensible.

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@Dang the current title, and maybe article linked, is going to cause a titanic misunderstanding in what's happening. The 1st party link has a much clearer title "VMware End of Availability of perpetual licensing and associated products" https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/96168?lang=en_US&ref=thestac... E.g. it's not that NSX as a whole is discontinued it's that NSX perpetual licensing is discontinued and you must buy th…

That VMware KB article says the subscription version of those applications is no longer available either.

    The following products are at End of Availability (EOA).  All licensing options
    including ... subscription, as well as all editions, suites ... are included
    in this announcement.
It sounds like those ones are going away rather than just forcibly transitioning people to a subscription model.

Re: VMware Kills Off 56 Products

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I wonder how this will cut into the hobbiest/learn-at-home crowd with our half width, 1U free-tier-license ESXi servers we learn our skills for our day jobs on.

I'm already not going to renew my VMUG membership, and am planning to switch my VSphere cluster over to Proxmox.

Are you using live migration of running VMs, or wanting it to work in Proxmox?

Asking because in my testing of that in Proxmox 3 and 5 node clusters last month, the live migration would fail (aka just hang with no further progress) just over 20% of the time.

Haven't looked into it further (likely will though), but searching around online shows lots of other people having experienced the same issue. General sentiment seems to be "Proxmox is good for homelab and non-prod environments. But probably don't use it in production."

Re: VMware Kills Off 56 Products

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I wonder how this will cut into the hobbiest/learn-at-home crowd with our half width, 1U free-tier-license ESXi servers we learn our skills for our day jobs on.

I think people underestimate the long term impact of this kind of thing. Giving the people who use and maybe more importantly influence the purchasing of expensive commercial products the ability to easily play with them on their own is essentially free advertising. And taking that away after you've offered it is even worse since now those same people not only can't experience your product firsthand as easily, but th…

It's likely going to substantially grow the business of their competitors.

Re: VMware Kills Off 56 Products

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VMware (now Broadcom?) owns the Spring/Spring Boot libraries, right? Anyone know if they're still planning on maintaining it?

Lets see, this is main the advantage of Java EE (now Jakarta) over Spring, plenty of companies to chose from.

Re: VMware Kills Off 56 Products

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Inaccurate. VMware is consolidating its ABSOLUTELY INSANE list of SKUs down to a handful. Yes, some products are getting put down (I.e. no longer maintained, with support ending way later), but not 56 of them, and definitely not NSX (makes HUGE money for VMware). Source: I work at VMware in presales

You should tell whoever wrote this kb and the associated articles that the language is opaque, confusing and contradictory.

Your potential customers will not enter your sales funnel with this kind of strange and misshapen noise happening about your products.

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